BeechTalk - BT - Piper announces the new M600 and improvements to the M350

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Jun 2016, 18:15

Username Protected wrote:

Marc, you got an 850?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Jun 2016, 18:22

Username Protected wrote:

When your at Oshkosh go look around a TBM and compare it to your Meridian.
Next time your in turbulence tell me its not worth the extra $1m like you say.
The TBM was built with military specs so Im not concern when I descend at 260 kts.

You can descend at 260 KIAS and not worry about anything, but you should. Turbulence penetration speed in the TBM is 158 KIAS, compared to 127 KIAs in the Meridian. The plane can break, reference the MMU TBM in flight breakup fatal.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Jun 2016, 21:10

Username Protected wrote:

Turbulence penetration speed in the TBM is 158 KIAS, compared to 127 KIAs in the Meridian.

I thought the M600 had increased maneuvering speed. A quick google failed me, do you know the answer?

Tim

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Jun 2016, 21:22

Username Protected wrote:

Would love a pirep, how does the 850 compare to the c2?

+1

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Jun 2016, 21:59

Username Protected wrote:

Chip,
When your at Oshkosh go look around a TBM and compare it to your Meridian.
Next time your in turbulence tell me its not worth the extra $1m like you say.
The TBM was built with military specs so Im not concern when I descend at 260 kts.

What is this turbulence you speak of?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Jul 2016, 11:07

Saw that Piper delivered the first customer M600. I like the paint job. Pretty nice specs on the aircraft as well. 274 KTAS, >1400 nm, and G3000 with all the latest envelope protection as well as auto descent. Just need to figure out how to convince myself that my Meridian is not accomplishing what I need

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Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Jul 2016, 12:13

Very pretty. I have a solution, give me the Meridian, and you buy the M600

Tim

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Jul 2016, 17:37

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Jul 2016, 08:52

36 - One of the most things I like is the versatility of the cabin. Within minutes it's a two seater and gives endless space for (my) special requirements.

Don't know the Meridian cabin at all. Just curious how it compares to the Bo cabin?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Jul 2016, 13:25

Username Protected wrote:

Don't know the Meridian cabin at all. Just curious how it compares to the Bo cabin?

Meaningfully longer cabin. Comfortable club seating for 4 adults. The airstair is between the rows - good legroom. Large baggage area behind the seats.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Jul 2016, 19:05

Username Protected wrote:

36 - One of the most things I like is the versatility of the cabin. Within minutes it's a two seater and gives endless space for (my) special requirements.

Don't know the Meridian cabin at all. Just curious how it compares to the Bo cabin?

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Username Protected · **Posted:** 25 Jul 2016, 07:04

Both Charles thanks and I understand, the cabin itself is bigger, more room for the four passengers.

I wanted to know how easy I can remove the second and/or the third row of seats
To transport instead of people a lot of gear.
How does the air steps /door compare to the barn doors of the Bo regarding loading and store stuff?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 25 Jul 2016, 07:34

The airstair is big, but I there's no comparison to barn doors for loading bicycles, hutches, pianos, etc. The Bo is clearly a much more versatile heavy hauler in that regard. I know a number of people have permanently removed a seed, typically a middle seat for extra gear space. I think the backseat is one piece and not particularly easy to remove. I don't really recall anyone on the MMOPA boards talking about routinely popping a seat in and out.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 25 Jul 2016, 10:16

All the seats in the back fold flat on the new planes, just the most rear seats fold flat on the older planes. My buddy takes a couple of mountain bikes not infrequently as he owns a bike company, just pops the front wheel off and puts the bike in a carry case. This was on a Santa Flight where the local Angel flight wing delivers, books, supplies, toys and Mr. and Mrs Clause to a selected Title one school. This one in Cedar City Utah. I had about 1000 lbs of books, toys and supplies here. They can haul, but they are not PC12's.

AFW airlifts tons of stuff every year for the kids. Very heartwarming if you ever get the chance to use your plane for charity.

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Username Protected · **Posted:** 28 Jul 2016, 22:36

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Well, after defending the Meridian for so long on this board none of you will be surprised that I closed on my Meridian last month, finished my training, and I am just starting to feel comfortable in it. Wow. Everybody was right. Flight levels, pressurization, and a turbine make all the difference in the world. I loved my B36TC but no comparison. Coming back from SoCal two weekends ago I felt bad for the guy on the radio in the Bo complaining about the ride while I was at FL270, with a tailwind, about 284KTS ground speed. Amazing. Here is a pic. Thank to all, especially Jason, for pointing out that life is short and now is the time. I couldn't agree more.