There’s both low and high altitude turbulence, but it’s rare at 40 and higher. Not that you don’t ever get it, but it’s rare.

Anyone in this group have something to confess? Saw this on Facebook

Oooopps!! Knew a rich guy who did that twice in his Conquest 1. Always in a big a$$ hurry

There is so much truth to this. I dread long trips in the PC12 after I started flying the Falcon. That thing runs 450kts. With a 100 knot headwind, we are still going almost 100 knots faster than the PC12 on a no-wind day.

Possible, sure, but it's irrelevant to the twin fans in the singles vs. twins debate. Twin fans focus on the possibility of an engine failure, not the probability. MTBF of 100,000 hours, a million, ten million? Doesn't matter how reliable the belt, they still want suspenders. It's emotion, not a calculation of risk/reward or cost/benefit. Electric motors could make for a step change in reliability beyond even turbines but it wouldn't change the mindset.

Possible, sure, but it's irrelevant to the twin fans in the singles vs. twins debate. Twin fans focus on the possibility of an engine failure, not the probability. MTBF of 100,000 hours, a million, ten million? Doesn't matter how reliable the belt, they still want suspenders. It's emotion, not a calculation of risk/reward or cost/benefit. Electric motors could make for a step change in reliability beyond even turbines but it wouldn't change the mindset.

Here is a video showing the incredible utility of the 12.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/BPgCl7Lp5T0[/youtube]

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That doesn't sound fun!

High altitude Airmets for turbulence today. Lots of squawking about continuous light and occasional moderate from the heavies. I was smooth until crossing the lower UT mountains at FL270, then got into continuous light. dropped to 250 and baby bottom smooth all the way to destination. It is an OWT that jets are smoother than TP's in the 20's. I hear this almost every time the Jet stream is active. Today looks like moderate or greater eddies above 450. Nice ride in the middle air.

This was my view as I walked to get outta dodge yesterday.........weather btw was great in the islands.........gonna miss not working

There was not a single KA on the ramp. Bunch of frigging jets, and some big ones to boot..........I think that the PC12 has nailed this market because of efficiency, reliability, loading and load capacity, and then range. Coupled with ease of operation and I bet that everyone will agree that the PC12 NG is a very, very easy airplane to fly and operate and you have a congo line that resembles the one below at most airports these days.

CDC UA /OV EHK295020/TM 1810/FL400/TP E55P/TB CONS MOD /ZLC

That doesn't sound fun!

High altitude Airmets for turbulence today. Lots of squawking about continuous light and occasional moderate from the heavies. I was smooth until crossing the lower UT mountains at FL270, then got into continuous light. dropped to 250 and baby bottom smooth all the way to destination. It is an OWT that jets are smoother than TP's in the 20's. I hear this almost every time the Jet stream is active. Today looks like moderate or greater eddies above 450. Nice ride in the middle air.

That is true. I can only go so high. I have been flying several times over the years when ATC asks for a pirep and I report good conditions and the airliners ask for lower and start descending at or below my altitude. Guess Delta and United write the revenues on those flights off after paying the fuel bill I will say that in a couple of thousand flight level hours, I have yet to have a turbulence day in cruise that I would say was uncomfortable, and certainly none that were dangerous. In the terminal in the mountains, that is a different story. I have had days where I could not use autopilot due to concerns of over stressing the airframe, or the servos not being able to keep up. But those conditions affect everyone. So I would put turbulence in TP's being a problem as an OWT, or at the very least, not a practical issue.

Pirated this from Scott D, hope I don't get sued Interesting graph anyway if I am interpreting it correctly. Kind of supports the twenties as being pretty benign. Clear air turbulence seems more of a very high or very low altitude phenomenon, obviously include turbulence more for the lower altitudes Which is why flight attendants need good disability policies....

Is that a count of PIREPs? That graph just peaks at the usual cruising altitude of airliners. Fewer planes spend meaningful time in the teens and 20s.

Agree... not sure this means anything.. also the airlines are hyper sensitive to turbulence because they’ve got hundreds of people in the back they’re trying to please. I rarely ask for ride reports but nearly every airliner asks at every check on.

Often I am at 40 and having a smooth ride and the airlines are in the mid thirties bitching about the ride