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YES, my next airplane will have air conditioning but the artic air works really well from the back seat if you only have two seats full. $600 bucks is not a huge risk to try it out.
Yes, having to get ice all summer is a PITB but it beats sweating.

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Michael,
Re reading your post I see you all ready have a redneck cooler. At least real A/C in experimental does not cost 30AMU.

How fast does that new rocket climb?

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Re reading your post I see you all ready have a redneck cooler. At least real A/C in experimental does not cost 30AMU.

How fast does that new rocket climb?


It's about $20k for AC in experimental


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Re reading your post I see you all ready have a redneck cooler. At least real A/C in experimental does not cost 30AMU.

How fast does that new rocket climb?


It's about $20k for AC in experimental


I got a quote for $13ish, actual unit is $5,500, that's for the compressor driven one, I'm not going all electric because I didn't like the CG moving so far aft.

The rocket climbs at 1,500-1750 FPM at 165kts with cool cylinders. It will do much more but I like to keep my CHTs below 380 degrees.

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It's about $20k for AC in experimental


I got a quote for $13ish, actual unit is $5,500, that's for the compressor driven one, I'm not going all electric because I didn't like the CG moving so far aft.

The rocket climbs at 1,500-1750 FPM at 165kts with cool cylinders. It will do much more but I like to keep my CHTs below 380 degrees.

True, if CG is an issue then the electric A/C may not be viable. I forget how heavy the electric unit is.

One nice thing about the electric system though is that they seemingly have had less compressor failures.

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me personally I really like the Evolution..........Gerry's plane is the perfect color ;)

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My grass strip does not allow turbines unless I pay a huge bribe; that's the only the reason I don't own an Evolution!


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My grass strip does not allow turbines unless I pay a huge bribe; that's the only the reason I don't own an Evolution!

Really? That's unfortunate. Although the LX7 would be better for you IMO. Reason I say that is because it's already what you have, with the acception of the LX7 conversion, but you can put a turbine on it. The LX7/IV-P has tires for grass strips. The Evo doesn't. You CAN put them on it but they hang out of the wing when retracted and you lose top speed. They estimate that the LX7 would cruise 300+ kts with a -28.


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Had a nice conversation with Bill Elliott today. As mentioned earlier in this thread, he seems really enthusiastic about the turboprop version, has owned several, and has other planes to fly like a 441. Interesting comments regarding the fuel system and modifications which can effectively allow running a tank dry. Fun day. His son has a 58. Great people!


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Bill is a good egg.....Chase has a seriously nice B58.........that he got for a steal!!!!

Bruce, when you gonna start working on PC12's man!!!

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His son has a 58. Great people!


Bill is a good egg.....Chase has a seriously nice B58.........that he got for a steal!!!!

Bruce, when you gonna start working on PC12's man!!!

Michael,

I see under aircraft that you are looking. Anything particular you are looking for?

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I flew the Lancair a solid 4 hours this weekend. Flew with my brother and also a 2 star retired U-2, Viper pilot. Awesome weekend. A few conclusions/thoughts:

-Hot as hell without AC. Plan to install AC very soon!
-Met with the interior guy that has done my Barons, decided on a two tone grey interior rather than my usual Ferrari tan. Never owned a grey interior car or plane but it seemed to work for the Lancair.
-This airplane burns almost no fuel, it's incredibly efficient.

Learned about the "Initial" overhead approach, neat technique; never even heard of this as a civilian.

I'm headed to OSH on Wednesday; can't wait.


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Absolutely taking the Lancair. Half the fuel and 30% faster than the Baron!


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Would you mind if I came by to drool on it? Drool is pretty effective at getting bugs off the leading edge! Enjoy the flight up and I look forward to seeing the speeds on FlightAware since you have to come in IFR. ...maybe we will get to see you land.


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