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Post subject: Re: Piper Arrow "...may have replaced the Bonanza..." Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 19:25 |
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Username Protected wrote: Awwww, be nice guys. Arrows are harmless critters.
Somewhere, an Arrow is somebody's pride and joy.
I've got several hundred hours in the 2 and 3, and they are nice flying, tame, forgiving airplanes that make really nice instrument platforms. And they'll take a licking, and keep on ticking.
Best, Rich They're just fine. But to say the Arrow "may have replaced the Bonanza..." is like saying "fat girls may have replaced skinny girls." Depends on what you mean by "replaced."
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Post subject: Re: Piper Arrow "...may have replaced the Bonanza..." Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 19:27 |
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Username Protected wrote: Awwww, be nice guys. Arrows are harmless critters.
Somewhere, an Arrow is somebody's pride and joy.
I've got several hundred hours in the 2 and 3, and they are nice flying, tame, forgiving airplanes that make really nice instrument platforms. And they'll take a licking, and keep on ticking.
Best, Rich They're just fine. But to say the Arrow "may have replaced the Bonanza..." is like saying "fat girls may have replaced skinny girls." Depends on what you mean by "replaced."
Well, according to an ex-girlfriend of mine "men are as faithful as their opportunities", so there you go.
Best, Rich
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Post subject: Re: Piper Arrow "...may have replaced the Bonanza..." Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 21:49 |
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Username Protected wrote: Hi again, Bob-
I pretty much agree with Spike; there may be a lot of Arrows out there serving their training mission, but in my mind that does not equate to replacing the Bonanza as the ubiquitous single-engine retractable. A quick check of FlightAware a few minutes ago yielded the following numbers of planes being tracked in the US:
BE33 - 4 BE35 - 10 BE36 - 20
P28R - 3 P28T - 1
Regards,
Bob Bob, I am not surprised by your sample whatsoever. I was really taken back by the magazine comment, and found it hard to believe. Many of you responded here with something like:  "Depends on what you mean by..."  So, please allow me to clarify;  I didn't mean anything, it wasn't me! All I said was; "Is this true?" looking for sound refute. The body of the post jumped off of the first paragraph of the Aviation Consumer Magazine article, and I copied it. Rob
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Post subject: Re: Piper Arrow "...may have replaced the Bonanza..." Posted: 31 Dec 2012, 22:50 |
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I owned and flew a 74 Arrow 200 for eleven years. Took the kids to and from college, trips to the a Bahamas. A most under appreciated and understood aircraft on this forum. 140 TAS , 11 GPH, 715 lbs useful load after 50gal full fuel. If a Bo isn't in your budget this is a wonderful aircraft despite any naysayers here. Ask it to do what it was designed to do and you will be a rewarded and happy camper. Great IFR platform. Find a good one is the key to success. Would I own one again if that was in the budget? It would be my first choice.no doubt before anything else of similar power and design .
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Post subject: Re: Piper Arrow "...may have replaced the Bonanza..." Posted: 01 Jan 2013, 00:20 |
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Username Protected wrote: I owned and flew a 74 Arrow 200 for eleven years. Took the kids to and from college, trips to the a Bahamas. A most under appreciated and understood aircraft on this forum. 140 TAS , 11 GPH, 715 lbs useful load after 50gal full fuel. If a Bo isn't in your budget this is a wonderful aircraft despite any naysayers here. Ask it to do what it was designed to do and you will be a rewarded and happy camper. Great IFR platform. Find a good one is the key to success. Would I own one again if that was in the budget? It would be my first choice.no doubt before anything else of similar power and design . +10. Well said. The earliest 200 models performed the best.
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Post subject: Re: Piper Arrow "...may have replaced the Bonanza..." Posted: 01 Jan 2013, 03:42 |
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Username Protected wrote: The earliest 200 models performed the best. Arrows come in quite a few different flavors. I owned a 1969 200 hp Arrow which had the short hershey bar bar wing and the small tail. When I purchased the plane I thought I was buying a poor mans Bonanza. I couldn't have been more wrong. It flew like a piece of plywood and landed like a pair of pliers with 3 wheels attached. I will admit that over time I grew to like it but it was not much of a pilots airplane. I only kept it a couple of years. Robert
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Post subject: Re: Piper Arrow "...may have replaced the Bonanza..." Posted: 01 Jan 2013, 07:31 |
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Username Protected wrote: The earliest 200 models performed the best. Arrows come in quite a few different flavors. I owned a 1969 200 hp Arrow which had the short hershey bar bar wing and the small tail. When I purchased the plane I thought I was buying a poor mans Bonanza. I couldn't have been more wrong. It flew like a piece of plywood and landed like a pair of pliers with 3 wheels attached. I will admit that over time I grew to like it but it was not much of a pilots airplane. I only kept it a couple of years. Robert
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Post subject: Re: Piper Arrow "...may have replaced the Bonanza..." Posted: 01 Jan 2013, 10:07 |
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Username Protected wrote: Hi again, Bob-
I pretty much agree with Spike; there may be a lot of Arrows out there serving their training mission, but in my mind that does not equate to replacing the Bonanza as the ubiquitous single-engine retractable. A quick check of FlightAware a few minutes ago yielded the following numbers of planes being tracked in the US:
BE33 - 4 BE35 - 10 BE36 - 20
P28R - 3 P28T - 1
Regards,
Bob Bob, I am not surprised by your sample whatsoever. I was really taken back by the magazine comment, and found it hard to believe. Many of you responded here with something like:  "Depends on what you mean by..."  So, please allow me to clarify;  I didn't mean anything, it wasn't me! All I said was; "Is this true?" looking for sound refute. The body of the post jumped off of the first paragraph of the Aviation Consumer Magazine article, and I copied it. Rob
When I lived in MT, a Bo was a rare sight. I called FBOs all over the area to find one to show to my wife before I purchased one ( so she knew what I was buying ) I finally found one when a local FBO called me in when an early model arrived for some MX. In 4 years of hanging out at MT airports, that was the 2nd one I'd ever seen there. There were several Arrows around. At my current airport, which is roughly about the same size as my MT airport, I know there's 5 Bonanzas based there maybe more, and it's rare that I don't see a transient one stop in for fuel if I hang out at the airport for any length of time.
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