BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 May 2012, 09:32

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There was a very nice Aviat Husky in my APs shop on tundra tires the other day the Owner wants to sell (asking 115 amus). A set of floats for that plane is in the 30 amu range.

Dang good looking airplane.

I looked hard at huskies. Great airplanes, but they just didn't have the short field performance that I felt I needed.

And of course, having that LSA thing available to me won't hurt as I get older.

Jim

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 May 2012, 09:37

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There was a very nice Aviat Husky in my APs shop on tundra tires the other day the Owner wants to sell (asking 115 amus). A set of floats for that plane is in the 30 amu range.

Dang good looking airplane.

Maybe a year ago, we had a 'distressed seller' locally who was trying to unload his B-model Husky for 85k. It had been re-covered and overhauled by the factory and had a low time engine. Every time I walked past that plane I was coming up with new explanations as to why I NEED that plane.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 May 2012, 12:57

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There was a very nice Aviat Husky in my APs shop on tundra tires the other day the Owner wants to sell (asking 115 amus). A set of floats for that plane is in the 30 amu range.

Dang good looking airplane.

I looked hard at huskies. Great airplanes, but they just didn't have the short field performance that I felt I needed.

And of course, having that LSA thing available to me won't hurt as I get older.

Jim

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 May 2012, 13:22

Scott: I have no dispute with your comment that infers that aircraft performance is limited to the capability of the pilot...except that all things being equal...the more capability the airplane has, the less limiting the capability of the pilot.

I flew my F33A a helluva lot...and I think I was an excellent manager of that airplane's capabilities. I had a lot of fun working (light...one pilot and not a lot of fuel) within 800 or so feet of the grass runway at 08A. There was more there, but we marked it off and tried to work short. You, no doubt, can do better than that, but I felt very much in command of my airplane.

I then (a few weeks ago) flew a Carbon Cub SS off the same runway with the same marks. The FIRST time I took it off...at gross weight, I was off the ground in much less than 200 feet. The FIRST time I landed it, no flaps, way too fast on approach, I was stopped well before 300 feet. After several take-offs and landings, I tightened that up by a lot (well, off in a hundred or so, landing in less than 200) and I don't think I ever heard the stall horn...so I STILL was landing way too fast.

Now, the A1C Husky has about 20 horsepower more and a gross weight of nearly a thousand pounds more. It's also a fair bit faster. On the other hand, the stall speed (published) is 53 mph (vs the CCSS's stall speed (published) of 32. The SuperCub looks a lot like the Husky, except it's stall speed is 48 and I don't think there are many if any with 200 HP. Don't misunderstand my point...If I wanted to carry 55 gallon drums full of...whatever...around the tundra I would buy a Super Cub or a Husky. But my mission is just to go out and play. Light camping, exploring the area. If I need to get a 55 gallon drum anywhere, I'm gonna call UPS. Ya know?

I expect and plan to spend a lot of time improving how I fly the Cub after I get it. I have set up a couple of guys who are accomplished back-country/bush pilots who I will work with a lot...after I feel like I have command of the airplane. At that point, I'll give you a call and we'll see if I can make it do just a little better than your two examples. :cheers:

I'll buy the beer after the flying.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 May 2012, 13:55

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I expect and plan to spend a lot of time improving how I fly the Cub after I get it. I have set up a couple of guys who are accomplished back-country/bush pilots who I will work with a lot...after I feel like I have command of the airplane. At that point, I'll give you a call and we'll see if I can make it do just a little better than your two examples. :cheers:

I'll buy the beer after the flying.

Sounds like you're doing pretty good already. The weekend of June 16th is the annual Super Cub get together at Johnson Creek in Idaho. They normally have over 100 Cubs on the field that weekend. For lots of guys it's their only challenging flying that they do all year. It's just like going to any boat ramp on a busy Sunday morning. Get a lawn chair and a bag or popcorn and I can pretty much guarantee you'll see a wreck of some sort there. Happens every year.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 May 2012, 15:08

This is the listing for the Husky on Barnstormers

2000 Aviat Husky A1B

2000 AVIAT HUSKY A1B • AVAILABLE FOR SALE • 2000 Aviat Husky 860TT, IFR panel , VM1000, Garmin 430, Garmin Auidio Panel, Garmin Transponder, Garmin 496 weather and XM Radio, 31In Tundra Tires w Baby Bush Tailwheel, Short throw flap handle, Tanis engine heater, Fresh Annual with purchase, $150K check $115K cash.

I wish I had the extra time and money to have a "pleasure only" plane. I take a real hard look at a Carbon Cub or one of these planes.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 May 2012, 15:22

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This is the listing for the Husky on Barnstormers

2000 Aviat Husky A1B

2000 AVIAT HUSKY A1B • AVAILABLE FOR SALE • 2000 Aviat Husky 860TT, IFR panel , VM1000, Garmin 430, Garmin Auidio Panel, Garmin Transponder, Garmin 496 weather and XM Radio, 31In Tundra Tires w Baby Bush Tailwheel, Short throw flap handle, Tanis engine heater, Fresh Annual with purchase, $150K check $115K cash.

I wish I had the extra time and money to have a "pleasure only" plane. I take a real hard look at a Carbon Cub or one of these planes.

Rick, This isn't a dress rehersal, it's the only life we get. Time to get a pleasure only plane. :cheers:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 May 2012, 15:22

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Sounds like you're doing pretty good already. The weekend of June 16th is the annual Super Cub get together at Johnson Creek in Idaho. They normally have over 100 Cubs on the field that weekend. For lots of guys it's their only challenging flying that they do all year. It's just like going to any boat ramp on a busy Sunday morning. Get a lawn chair and a bag or popcorn and I can pretty much guarantee you'll see a wreck of some sort there. Happens every year.

I am planning on the Johnson Creek deal next year. Sounds like huge fun. We'll see if I'm ready. I ought to be, but I'll make sure a pro makes that pronouncement, not me.

Jim

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 May 2012, 16:13

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Sounds like you're doing pretty good already. The weekend of June 16th is the annual Super Cub get together at Johnson Creek in Idaho. They normally have over 100 Cubs on the field that weekend. For lots of guys it's their only challenging flying that they do all year. It's just like going to any boat ramp on a busy Sunday morning. Get a lawn chair and a bag or popcorn and I can pretty much guarantee you'll see a wreck of some sort there. Happens every year.

I am planning on the Johnson Creek deal next year. Sounds like huge fun. We'll see if I'm ready. I ought to be, but I'll make sure a pro makes that pronouncement, not me.

Jim

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 May 2012, 16:26

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Rick, This isn't a dress rehersal, it's the only life we get. Time to get a pleasure only plane. :cheers:

Rick, I'm pretty sure I just heard Bill offer to buy you a pleasure plane. Act quick!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 18 May 2012, 16:47

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I avoid large gatherings like that. First it's simply too damn noisy. If I wanted to camp at Walmart I would. Second a big group like that in the backcountry is bad for our reputation. No two ways about it, we take it on the chin with every large gathering. The one that's even worse is the 180/185 group. Nothing worse than the prop on a 185 screaming at 2850 RPM. Make plans to go when there isn't all those planes, you'll really like that.

Hey now, those gatherings are job security for insurance adjusters.