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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SR20 as new Air Force trainer Posted: 09 Jul 2011, 12:30 |
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Joined: 11/16/10 Posts: 9671 Post Likes: +8746 Location: Buffalo MN KCFE
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Username Protected wrote: There was a big dust-up in in MN a few years ago when the state chose A36 over Cirrus to replace the MNDOT fleet. It was funny watching the state and the pilots try to explain why the A36 was a better value at twice the cost. It doesn't take much for a dustup in MN it seems. The outrage is usually driven by that fish-wrap out of Minneapolis. The DOT guys fly around and fix the DOT owned nav facilities like some of the runway lights and most of the little 'terminal' VORs at the rural airports. I imagine they needed some space for their tool boxes.
I imagine they also liked the reliability during day to day operations. While one example doesn't mean much, My neighbors SR22 has been in the shop constantly, from fairings falling off to cam galling and a 6 month fight (plane grounded) over who would warranty. He bought it new.
Greg
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus SR20 as new Air Force trainer Posted: 09 Jul 2011, 21:33 |
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Username Protected wrote: Last I heard, the UND flight program parked their Cirri trainers due to unreliability in the high cycle flight training environment. A fighter jock probably made this decision after seeing the side stick.  Not sure I quite understand your reference regarding the side stick...I think you are saying that a fighter pilot within the AF liked the Cirrus because of the side stick and elected to buy the cirrus but it appears that you may be saying a fighter jock at UND decided to park their airplanes because of the unreliability and side stick. As a fighter pilot myself I had a choice and bought a bonanza. Does the same apply to my decision?
Just a former green-suiter helo jock picking fun at the blue-suiter brethren. No connection between the UND and side-stick comments. UND comments go at the reliability of the Cirri in a high cycle/training environment. The side stick reference was that it was something familiar, and correlated to modern fighter side-stick layouts. Didn't they build the USAF DA20s with a RH PIC station? I wonder if that will be the case with the Cirri, again so the right hand gets the stick and the left gets the power.
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