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Post subject: Re: Cessna 401 - Save me from myself!  Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 12:00 |
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Username Protected wrote: Larry Was it the 401 that had the serious issue with the rudder? It was one of these low number 400 series planes. IIRC they were not of sufficient size to handle single engine operations or something such.  Not a small consideration in my book. Wasn't that the 911? er, I mean 411?
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 401 - Save me from myself! Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 12:12 |
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Username Protected wrote: I don't think many.
In years past some underwriters wouldn't even quote them.
It was like getting insurance on an Apache!  ahhh the flying spud - those are fun conversations.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 401 - Save me from myself! Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 23:40 |
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Username Protected wrote: Could easily be a 411. Are any of those still in service?? Yup, I've got one...a nice airplane. Rudder forces can be high if an engine fails at a low speed, however, keep it at 120mph or more, not a problem. Fit VG's...problem goes away. I know a guy in Tasmania that has two, one he flies, the other is for parts...mostly engine parts as the GTSIO engine used in unlike no other GTSIO engine. IE: different reduction gear ratio versus the others. Mine is insured through Tokyo Fire and Marine...for $1/year.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 401 - Save me from myself! Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 02:25 |
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Username Protected wrote: what is the best 8 Pax non-pressurized twin for the buck and with Navajo's which model? (chieftain, CR, Mojave, or straight Navajo) That would be the Chieftain, the Mojave is pressurized. The CR or straight Navajo are the shorter fuselage with 6 or 7 passengers seats.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 401 - Save me from myself! Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 06:54 |
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Username Protected wrote: Could easily be a 411. Are any of those still in service?? Yup, I've got one...a nice airplane. Rudder forces can be high if an engine fails at a low speed, however, keep it at 120mph or more, not a problem. Fit VG's...problem goes away. I know a guy in Tasmania that has two, one he flies, the other is for parts...mostly engine parts as the GTSIO engine used in unlike no other GTSIO engine. IE: different reduction gear ratio versus the others. Mine is insured through Tokyo Fire and Marine...for $1/year.
explain that $1 /year you're close to my price range!
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 401 - Save me from myself! Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 07:18 |
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Username Protected wrote: Big difference on 401 and 402. The 402 is much better layout, bigger nose, and is often set up for a commuter operation. The 401 is too small. I'm not a fan of either. Sort of a Navajo vs. Chieftain setup ?
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 401 - Save me from myself! Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 07:19 |
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**explain that $1 /year you're close to my price range!** Done as a courtesy, as we have three large aircraft (three B727's) insured through the same company.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 401 - Save me from myself! Posted: 03 Apr 2010, 22:13 |
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Username Protected wrote: How about a 401 that was recently 135, has the spar done, has a 530, but needs an engine? If the price is right, anything is possible. The 401 is a nice flying airplane. I picked up several new ones form the factory, many years ago.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 401 - Save me from myself! Posted: 05 Apr 2010, 19:42 |
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Username Protected wrote: Just curious... Is a 340 much cheaper to own/operate than a Duke? Mike, Are you looking to trade up allready? Eric
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 401 - Save me from myself! Posted: 06 Apr 2010, 13:10 |
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Username Protected wrote: Mike, Are you looking to trade up allready? Nope. I love the E55... it's easy on the eyes, a real dream to fly, and presents less hassles than most women.
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