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Post subject: Re: 1954 HU-16 Albatross Miss Splash - County Auction 30JAN2  Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 10:49 |
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Username Protected wrote: It really doesn't look that bad at all. Obviously photos can be deceiving but I've seen much much worse. I'd bet it could be back in flying shape for a lot less than 1MM.  Until I actually looked at it, that’s not a bet I’d make with your money, much less my own.
I misread the post about Oshkosh as 2018 not 2008 haha.
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Post subject: Re: 1954 HU-16 Albatross Miss Splash - County Auction 30JAN2 Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 11:14 |
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Username Protected wrote: NOTICE
PUBLIC AUCTION OF DERELICT AIRPLANE
Public auction on Friday, January 30, 2026 at 11 a.m. at the Warrenton-Fauquier Airport ....
Terms of sale: No reserve. No minimum bid. No preregistration required. High bidder must pay the purchase price entirely in cash. Checks, wires, and credit cards will not be accepted. Entirety of purchase price due immediately at the close of the auction. No time will be allotted for high bidder to leave the auction to obtain cash. Airplane is offered for sale as-is, where-is....
Sounds like a set up !
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Post subject: Re: 1954 HU-16 Albatross Miss Splash - County Auction 30JAN2 Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 11:41 |
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Username Protected wrote: Sounds like a set up ! All you need is about 5 or 6 serious bidders all carrying 6 figures in cash, at a publicly announced time and place. That's more cash in one place than at a bank. What could go wrong with that? Why does a government sale need to be only in cash? That smells. "Good day folks, let's start the bidding at minus $100,000. Who will be our first bid. ... Anyone?" Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: 1954 HU-16 Albatross Miss Splash - County Auction 30JAN2 Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 11:53 |
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Not fur nuthin, but I’ve personally witnessed two “BT Derelict” airplanes, assigned by the BT wisdom to a destiny of scrap be flown away and enjoyed by the new owners. Did they need a bit of work, cleverness and willingness to fly OLD systems? Indeed. Maybe there was a spar inspection that condemned this hull. Maybe owner just lost ability to pay attention. But without actually knowing the facts, ya never know. I’m voting for the underdog. 
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Post subject: Re: 1954 HU-16 Albatross Miss Splash - County Auction 30JAN2 Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 12:11 |
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Username Protected wrote: NOTICE
PUBLIC AUCTION OF DERELICT AIRPLANE
Public auction on Friday, January 30, 2026 at 11 a.m. at the Warrenton-Fauquier Airport ....
Terms of sale: No reserve. No minimum bid. No preregistration required. High bidder must pay the purchase price entirely in cash. Checks, wires, and credit cards will not be accepted. Entirety of purchase price due immediately at the close of the auction. No time will be allotted for high bidder to leave the auction to obtain cash. Airplane is offered for sale as-is, where-is....
Sounds like a set up !
Can you say “Civil Asset Forfeiture” boys and girls? There are several stories of unethical law enforcement types staking out the roads leading to auto auction locations that only accepted cash. They perform a traffic stop for some ludicrous or made up reason, ask the driver if they have contriban or large amounts of cash and then “arrest” the money. The driver then has to prove the money was not acquired illegally. The money is then turned over to the DEA with a percentage kept by the officers local department. Legalized piracy!
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Post subject: Re: 1954 HU-16 Albatross Miss Splash - County Auction 30JAN2 Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 14:03 |
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Wonder if they will take my $20 that SWMBO gave me!
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Post subject: Re: 1954 HU-16 Albatross Miss Splash - County Auction 30JAN2 Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 15:01 |
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Username Protected wrote: NOTICE
PUBLIC AUCTION OF DERELICT AIRPLANE
Public auction on Friday, January 30, 2026 at 11 a.m. at the Warrenton-Fauquier Airport ....
Terms of sale: No reserve. No minimum bid. No preregistration required. High bidder must pay the purchase price entirely in cash. Checks, wires, and credit cards will not be accepted. Entirety of purchase price due immediately at the close of the auction. No time will be allotted for high bidder to leave the auction to obtain cash. Airplane is offered for sale as-is, where-is....
Sounds like a set up !
Agreed.... this whole deal is very sketchy. Even if I could afford to bid, I would not touch this one with the proverbial ten foot pole. 
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Post subject: Re: 1954 HU-16 Albatross Miss Splash - County Auction 30JAN2 Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 16:43 |
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Username Protected wrote: Agreed.... this whole deal is very sketchy. Even if I could afford to bid, I would not touch this one with the proverbial ten foot pole. If I were nearby I'd turn up with $500 in my pocket. Who knows, you might be the only bid but likely, some scrap metal guy will be on scene with a loader and a wad of cash
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Post subject: Re: 1954 HU-16 Albatross Miss Splash - County Auction 30JAN2 Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 18:37 |
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At least Jimmy or Rebuild Rescue might be better than a scrapper. ...but it would have been nice if the current owner could have donated it to CAF or the Smithsonian and someone could have paid the ramp fees to keep it there until it warmed up.
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Post subject: Re: 1954 HU-16 Albatross Miss Splash - County Auction 30JAN2 Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 19:03 |
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Username Protected wrote: If I were nearby I'd turn up with $500 in my pocket. Who knows, you might be the only bid You need at least $2001. $1 for the airframe, $2000 for the parking bond.
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Post subject: Re: 1954 HU-16 Albatross Miss Splash - County Auction 30JAN2 Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 21:09 |
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With the terrible terms for the auction I wonder if someone in the background that wants it is dictating such terms.
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Post subject: Re: 1954 HU-16 Albatross Miss Splash - County Auction 30JAN2 Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 21:31 |
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Must not go with a wad of $$$….must not go with a wad of $$$
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Post subject: Re: 1954 HU-16 Albatross Miss Splash - County Auction 30JAN2 Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 22:37 |
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Username Protected wrote: With the terrible terms for the auction I wonder if someone in the background that wants it is dictating such terms. A few years ago I happened to be at a Florida airport when they auctioned off a "derelict" T-28. Looked good to me, but I don't know the history. It went to the FBO, their winning bid was simply to forgive the back hangar rent owed.
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Post subject: Re: 1954 HU-16 Albatross Miss Splash - County Auction 30JAN2 Posted: 15 Dec 2025, 22:43 |
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Username Protected wrote: Sounds like a set up ! All you need is about 5 or 6 serious bidders all carrying 6 figures in cash, at a publicly announced time and place. That's more cash in one place than at a bank. What could go wrong with that? Why does a government sale need to be only in cash? That smells. "Good day folks, let's start the bidding at minus $100,000. Who will be our first bid. ... Anyone?" Mike C.
Even worse, get pulled over by the authorities with $20,000 in cash. Cash is not king with the police.
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Post subject: Re: 1954 HU-16 Albatross Miss Splash - County Auction 30JAN2 Posted: Yesterday, 10:17 |
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Username Protected wrote:
I suspect the actual end game here is salvage. Even that is hard to see the return. Perhaps an owner/operator of another one will buy it for spares.
It might be negative value as it sits which is why the owners abandoned it.
It might never fly again.
Mike C.
The return might be other than financial.
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