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Post subject: Re: Jetson One Posted: 31 Oct 2025, 13:33 |
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Username Protected wrote: That was my first thought as well. A lot cheaper and easier than a real helo
Cheaper, maybe, but 15 minutes at a time (allowing a reserve) then what? Plug it into the portable generator on the trailer you brought it on and wait? I think it’s a toy, and not a particularly practical one at that. Certainly not a very safe one, either for the occupant or those around it.
After watching the video, they need to make it easier to get in and out of. I agree very little practical use. Someones gonna lose an arm at a minimum.
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Post subject: Re: Jetson One Posted: 31 Oct 2025, 13:45 |
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Username Protected wrote: ... but 15 minutes at a time (allowing a reserve) then what? Plug it into the portable generator on the trailer you brought it on and wait? A quick change battery will make these kinds of things a lot more useable and useful- using a spare battery (or two or three). Electric-only flight will be only a niche market for a long time to come, but I can see niches in vehicles like this to check on your "north 40" instead of using a golf cart, gator, etc.; I appreciate that at the same time it's an expensive(!) toy compared to those wheeled, terrestrial alternatives. Don't forget to "dress for the walk home."Invent/devise/perfect an inexpensive and easy to use system for that and it'll open up a few more uses for manned e-VTOL. (Until then, it'll be just an expensive toy.) I can see quick change batteries opening up another niche in primary flight training using electric motorgliders. Think about that: one battery = one lesson. A flight school could also stash a spare battery at a second airport, >50 miles away (you could even send your solos there). But, there is some $$ and technical problems yet to be solved.
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Post subject: Re: Jetson One Posted: 31 Oct 2025, 13:51 |
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Username Protected wrote: A quick change battery will make these kinds of things a lot more useable and useful- using a spare battery (or two or three).. There might be other limitations on back to back 20 minutes flights due to motor cooling issues.
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Post subject: Re: Jetson One Posted: 31 Oct 2025, 14:00 |
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Username Protected wrote: Better range and faster charging when solid state batteries are available
Same as my other electric toys Rivian Hpc electric bike Stark motorcycle : offroad model and new super moto So you're saying none of that stuff is worth buying now, only after better batteries arrive?
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Post subject: Re: Jetson One Posted: 31 Oct 2025, 15:04 |
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Tough crowd. Looks like a bundle of fun to me I'd love one to make my commute back and forth to work. I've got space to takeoff and land on both ends.
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Post subject: Re: Jetson One Posted: 31 Oct 2025, 16:08 |
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The first personal computer was ridiculously expensive. Then the prices came down. The first cell phone was ridiculously expensive. Then the prices came down. The first flat-screen TV was ridiculously expensive. Then the prices came down. The first Jetson One is ridiculously expensive......
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Post subject: Re: Jetson One Posted: 31 Oct 2025, 16:30 |
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Username Protected wrote: The first Jetson One is ridiculously expensive...... ... then they declared bankruptcy. In your list, the first 3 items are useful and were made in the billions. The Jetson making it past 100 made is questionable, and 1000 made certainly not. No economies of scale here to lower prices. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Jetson One Posted: 31 Oct 2025, 16:59 |
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Username Protected wrote: The first Jetson One is ridiculously expensive...... ... then they declared bankruptcy. In your list, the first 3 items are useful and were made in the billions. The Jetson making it past 100 made is questionable, and 1000 made certainly not. No economies of scale here to lower prices. Mike C.
I think you may be surprised here.
Look at the Side-By-Side market. Those things have gotten insane, not uncommon for your average working folk to spend 50K+ on a toy. Some of them are nicer than my vehicles, there are some new electric ones that are over 100k and people are buying them. Same with wake/surf boats. It used to be that a nice nautique, supra etc was 50-70K. Now there are many many of them over 250K with people still buying them. Don't underestimate what people will spend on "useless" toys.
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Post subject: Re: Jetson One Posted: 31 Oct 2025, 18:53 |
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Username Protected wrote: Tough crowd. Looks like a bundle of fun to me I'd love one to make my commute back and forth to work. I've got space to takeoff and land on both ends. JOOC, what would be your plan when the weather turns bad about quitting time? Avoiding rush hour traffic would sure be nice though (if I was still working).
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Post subject: Re: Jetson One Posted: 31 Oct 2025, 19:19 |
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Username Protected wrote: ... then they declared bankruptcy.
In your list, the first 3 items are useful and were made in the billions. The Jetson making it past 100 made is questionable, and 1000 made certainly not. No economies of scale here to lower prices.
Mike C. I think you may be surprised here. Look at the Side-By-Side market. Those things have gotten insane, not uncommon for your average working folk to spend 50K+ on a toy. Some of them are nicer than my vehicles, there are some new electric ones that are over 100k and people are buying them. Same with wake/surf boats. It used to be that a nice nautique, supra etc was 50-70K. Now there are many many of them over 250K with people still buying them. Don't underestimate what people will spend on "useless" toys. The only other forum that I frequent is a cattle forum. There are cattle ranchers overseeing tens of thousands of acres in the west, and more in Canada.
One of the guys I stay in touch with bought a $40,000 drone to spray his pasture areas, in lieu of hiring it out to a helicopter. He’s been hiring a plane or helicopter every year to make sure all of his cattle have been rounded up before winter sets in.
When your annual cattle sales are in the millions, seems something like this might make roundup time cheaper and easier. Instead of having 10 or 14 cowboys on horses, there could be one or two, with an eye in the sky.
Might even lower the price of beef.
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Post subject: Re: Jetson One Posted: 31 Oct 2025, 19:47 |
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Username Protected wrote: He’s been hiring a plane or helicopter every year to make sure all of his cattle have been rounded up before winter sets in.
When your annual cattle sales are in the millions, seems something like this might make roundup time cheaper and easier. Instead of having 10 or 14 cowboys on horses, there could be one or two, with an eye in the sky.
Fifteen minutes at a time? With landings and battery changes in between? How long would that take compared to a couple of guys on horseback who can stay out all day?
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Post subject: Re: Jetson One Posted: 31 Oct 2025, 20:02 |
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Username Protected wrote: He’s been hiring a plane or helicopter every year to make sure all of his cattle have been rounded up before winter sets in.
When your annual cattle sales are in the millions, seems something like this might make roundup time cheaper and easier. Instead of having 10 or 14 cowboys on horses, there could be one or two, with an eye in the sky.
Fifteen minutes at a time? With landings and battery changes in between? How long would that take compared to a couple of guys on horseback who can stay out all day? John, Do you know how big one acre is? 100,000 acres? What it takes to know the cattle are moving in the direction you want? I believe 15 minutes, especially with an extra battery, is adequate. I know that marketing this thing to the relatively few ranchers that could make this work, …………,,,well it won’t work for the manufacturer. It’s a dead end, but not because it couldn’t work for large acreage ranchers.
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Post subject: Re: Jetson One Posted: 31 Oct 2025, 20:07 |
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We just had a drone about this size, held 18 gallons of material, spray 90 acres infested with mesquite, huisache etc. it was 100% autonomous, using a cameras + computer to actually spot spray individual plants. LiDAR kept it tactically safe and allowed it to operate below tree top level. 90 acres took about 3.5 hrs, coming back to base to change batteries and reload material every 10-20. They just had a big generator in the trailer charging batteries.
The application cost was about 1/3 of guys with back pack sprayers. Respective materials, while different, were a push cost wise
Efficacy was 99%. As far as we can tell the only thing it missed were some little outlier species that we forgot to add to the list of target species, in the app:-)
I could see that thing checking and moving cattle easily, while the operator sits in the truck on a screen.
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Post subject: Re: Jetson One Posted: 31 Oct 2025, 20:36 |
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If I were in the appropriate tax bracket I would buy one in a heartbeat!
I used to rip around the airport at 20 feet in a helicopter when we needed time put on an aircraft for one reason or another. Landing on gravel piles, in clearings, chasing deer off the runway, pirouettes around with windsock, etc... It's about the most fun you can have!
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