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 Post subject: Re: Building an airplane thread
PostPosted: 03 Mar 2025, 10:34 
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Agree with these guys. You can buy a nice Comanche and be flying next week for half of what you'll spend building an RV10 that you might finish in a few years if you've got a lot of free time and are dedicated. The reason so many guys build more than one plane is because they enjoy building as much or more than flying. The primary motivation has got to be the journey.

That said, if you really want to build and get to the end result fastest the Sling with the factory assist option is the way to go.


I get the smaller RVs, but I never really understood the RV10. If you want a four seat, 172 knot 15 gallon per hour airplane, it was built 60 years ago. It's called a S35 bonanza. It's even bigger inside.


Don't forget that the RV10 is experimental so you can do your own work without an A&P, If you build it you can do your own inspections. You can also modify it to your hearts content with out the FAA on your back at every turn. That alone makes it superior to a bonanza IMO. (I know that doesn't much matter to you, but it does to a lot of people)
Not to mention it's brand new with the newest tech vs 60 years old. And when newer tech becomes available? Slap it on there, no need to wait 20 years for it to become available for a certified plane.
No retractable gear means cheaper easier maintenance and insurance too.
Oh, and you can put a parachute in it.

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 Post subject: Re: Building an airplane thread
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Justin hit the nail on the head. I do like building but also want the freedom to do all work and inspections and separate myself from the certified world. I have owned a bonanza with a 550 and currently have a P2 Baron with the latest and greatest avionics. So with that said I still want performance AND the latest avionics. This pretty much leaves me to build my own but I’m not well educated on the experimental world. I want fast but safe.


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 Post subject: Re: Building an airplane thread
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I'm obviously biased, but my mission was cross country, IFR, 4-place and fast. I went with a Velocity XL-RG. 200kts on 13.6GPH below 10,000' (because the farthest west I'd flown and was planning to fly was Dallas up to Minneapolis). And I didn't need short or turf strips.

It's a very comfortable long distance aircraft. Two doors make for easy ingress and egress for the front seat. Back seat is about the same as most one or two door 4 seat aircraft. Baggage access sucks because there's no baggage door.


I heard they don’t handle crosswinds as well, any insight on this?


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 Post subject: Re: Building an airplane thread
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Another word of advice: build it in your garage or basement. If you have to drive to a hangar to work on it, it’ll take much longer.

This^

My build is taking way too long because everything stays in the hangar.
I don't want to bring stuff home and "Oops! Tool X is still in the hangar"
Then back to the hangar and "Oops! I forgot tool Y at home"
And I'm sure not going to move the band saw or drill press back and forth.
I like everything in one place.


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Since you seem to be committed to the building process and have good reasons to go Experimental, I would consider this: What type of material do you want (prefer) to be working with? Aluminum and pounding rivets or fiberglass and sanding and shaping? You’ll end up doing both regardless of what you build, but I’m talking the day to day stuff. I’m not inclined towards either and am old school so I chose wood and tube and fabric.

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Since you seem to be committed to the building process and have good reasons to go Experimental, I would consider this: What type of material do you want (prefer) to be working with? Aluminum and pounding rivets or fiberglass and sanding and shaping? You’ll end up doing both regardless of what you build, but I’m talking the day to day stuff. I’m not inclined towards either and am old school so I chose wood and tube and fabric.

What's more, if you're brand new to all this stuff, never worked on a project using any one of those three main methods, and you have apprehension about your skill in or potential enjoyment of that method- put your fears aside and have an open mind. You might be surprised what you're capable of and how much fun it turns out.

Attend an EAA Sport Air Workshop where you can get introductory instruction and supervised tinkering for a weekend. Go to Oshkosh or Sun 'n Fun and seek out one of the manufacturers' booths where they welcome prospective customers to get their hands dirty.

If you're the kind of person who likes to fix the kitchen sink and change your own oil, building an airplane is a lot like that (a lot like doing that a thousand times...)


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It took me 27 years to build my 2-place Lancair. In my defense, I took 10 years off to build a house. Due to the long build time, I only had 10 years to fly it until I got too old, but it was really fun. I got to fly it across the Country - 5,000 sm in total. It was a sweet flying cross-country airplane, but useful load and baggage space were really limited. I second what others have said: Unless you really like building things, you would be better off buying a completed aircraft. Have you considered the 4-place Lancairs?


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I have looked at the lanceair but the price jumps quite a bit


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Attend an EAA Sport Air Workshop where you can get introductory instruction and supervised tinkering for a weekend. Go to Oshkosh or Sun 'n Fun and seek out one of the manufacturers' booths where they welcome prospective customers to get their hands dirty.


Another reason to get to OSH. Take all the build workshops and learn how to rivet, learn how to work with fiberglass, etc. They're beginner courses, but the conditions are perfectly imperfect. Hot, a bit loud and distracting with all the activity... If working with the materials isn't fun and doesn't get you focused, it's probably not the right process for you.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of doing the amount of sanding required to do a composite airplane. Doing some fiberglass bits is as far as I'd want to go.


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There are quite a few partially completed kits that come on the market. Some with a lot of work completed and most are typically priced at or below initial cost.

Also watch for insurance salvage bids.


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How are the JMB’s? They look to be a 200 knot plane


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Ah, I missed that you currently have an airplane to fly. That’s a great situation to be in: you can fly to your heart’s content, and build because you want to build.

I did the opposite: I started an RV-7, and it was languishing because I didn’t have the time or motivation to finish it. I decided that these were good flying years for me (the combination of health and spare income) so I bought my Twin Bonanza. I’ll finish the RV when I retire, and then decide if I need them both.


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Things I now know after building my plane:

The design features I wanted when I started were not the design features I wanted when I finished. Life threw some curveballs.

The amount of time it took was a multiple of the factory quoted time. Life threw some curveballs.

Experimental is great, but some of the designs are REALLY experimental. Stick with a fairly conservative, very time-tested and proven design with hundreds of flying examples.

Build at home if at all possible and move it to the hangar at the very last minute. I did a surprising amount of work in a 7'x7'x21' 1 car garage space. I spent six months just preparing the space and I'm certain that saved at least 2-3 years.

Unless you're building from a short list of the best kits, you will put more money into your plane than it will be worth when you finish.

I wouldn't trade the experience for anything.


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I would also encourage a trip to Oshkosh before this kind of endeavor. Some planes look good on paper, but less so in real life. My favorite from last year was the Risen. It's only a two seater, but you get to go to Italy to build it, and it has a proper tail.

Also, if you're not experienced in this type of work, plan on doing a substantial portion of it at least twice.

https://www.flyrisen.com/


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