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 Post subject: Re: JetACQ Deal or No Deal!
PostPosted: 26 Jul 2024, 15:38 
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Mike -

You pretty much nailed what a good investment it is to invest in BeechTalk if you are in this business. It used to be $75/month when I joined and anything under $100 for all this targeted advertising is a stellar deal. I am glad BT is here and free!

...well, NOTHING IN LIFE IS FREE. It's just free to me because of BT's sponsors.

You and Chip both add immense value to BT. Your Citation and MU2 knowledge, as well as your knowledge of engineering and business is phenomenal! Chip's knowledge of the jet market and maintenance shops is amazing. Most of that time both of you are giving away your knowledge for the betterment of aviation. Sometimes Chip has to feed his family and pays BT for that privilege. He doesn't manufacture the aircraft, sell parts, sell STCs, so he's not in that business. We don't deride the Sponsors who sell for their posts about their awesome new STC or their <insert service type here> service, usually.

Honestly, I enjoy the ads. Sometimes I learn a thing or two, particularly about the STCs or the work that my BT Sisters and Brothers are doing with their aviation business, such as the fuel work, engine work, LED work, and lowering costs or extending aircraft life with their ingenuity. Most of all I love two of the aircraft brokers and their postings. Yes, I learn things about Chip's business and enjoy reading his posts as well as watching YT videos of his competitors.

If I don't want to see it or read it, I just don't click on it. I certainly don't want to attack an advertiser for doing business on here and posting an ad every now and then.

Honestly, if Chip calculated his time on here and the business being on BT brings, my guess is that he gives the collective US more than he receives.


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 Post subject: Re: JetACQ Deal or No Deal!
PostPosted: 26 Jul 2024, 15:52 
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Mike,
I have a grand idea.

Why don't you just block Chip.

I know...I know.
Chip will be crying and depressed and have to have professional help.

No one else is bothered by Chip's sometimes mild self promotion or else those bothered simply ignore him. Wow, another grand idea! Yeah..yeah. Ignore Chip

Either works.

^^ What Bob said,

You and Chip both ad immense value to BT.
You just don't add to BT when you are busting his chops :cheers:

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 Post subject: Re: JetACQ Deal or No Deal!
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The fact of the matter is the main reason everybody knows who I am on Beechtalk is because Mike’s Ciholas is always going back-and-forth with me. He’s actually causing what he says he doesn’t want to see happen!


And the crazy thing is, I enjoy it. Beechtalk is like an addiction to me, my wife calls it my mistress! I check Beechtalk multiple times a day, just to see what’s going on! It’s sort of like a neighborhood barbecue. Friends, foes, and a few people that’ve had too much to drink!


Pretty much. However, in the spirit of the old "BT Island" thread, I hereby nominate Mike C. to become the JetACQ "Minister of Marketing".........I further insist that there be made business cards stating such.

All in favor, say aye.........all opposed......shut yer pie holes!!!!!! :duck: :cheers:

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 Post subject: Re: JetACQ Deal or No Deal!
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Just how blatantly promotional does a thread have to be before the BT admins decide it is too much?

Imagine if all the sponsors with those little adverts on the right side of the page posted things like this. What would that mean for BT?

Mike C.


I think BT is the best forum for aviation. We need sponsors to keep this site up and running. Chip is a contributor and knowledge base, just like you Mike, you just happen to not have a business sponsorship here. I think your business wouldn't benefit from it, but your contributions here are appreciated.


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 Post subject: Re: JetACQ Deal or No Deal!
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I need Depends next time I read your replies because I almost pissed myself laughing so hard!


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Just how blatantly promotional does a thread have to be before the BT admins decide it is too much?

Imagine if all the sponsors with those little adverts on the right side of the page posted things like this. What would that mean for BT?

Mike C.


Haven't see you bad mouthing this one yet. :scratch:

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Haven't see you bad mouthing this one yet. :scratch:

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Nor all the Guy Ginbey posts about his offerings. Or any other sponsor I can remember. Mike's excuse is clearly BS. The attacks on Chip are personally motivated and therefore uncalled for.

Personally I appreciate the sponsors, and I think it is up to the Jeff's and ONLY the Jeff's to decide what is acceptable for a sponsor and what isn't.

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This is the best thread I've seen on BT in a while!

Chip does an amazing job as a buyer's agent. I've bought a King Air and a Mustang with his help now, and I'm happy as can be with both deals. Chip also posts a number of threads about specific aircraft types, that generate fantastic discussions among other members. This may have a positive impact on his business, but the threads are not at all commercial in nature. Few others on BT have done that.

Mike is a tremendous resource for Citation knowledge. I've learned a lot from him, especially over the past year researching the purchase of our Mustang, here and on CJP. He has been an outspoken advocate for owners with Williams engines, in particular.

Their unbounded love toward each other notwithstanding, each one has done more to help the other gain attention than any other two people I can think of, out of the 81,000 (or whatever it is) people on this forum.

I love watching a couple of heavyweights go at it. :popcorn: This beats the hell out of popup Viagra and vasectomy reversal ads (which you know the AI bots would aim at the demographic on this forum) if the Jeffs didn't subsidize BT with commercial sponsorships.

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Over the last nine years, many of our clients have said how much they appreciate being told NO! Here's one example https://www.twinandturbine.com/and-then-there-was-one/


Client lives in Dallas and you had him fly to Nashville/Stevens to do the work? There are some very quality and reputable shops in Dallas for C90A work, and better tax treatment for your customer

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"Shops are very busy these days and I can pull strings at shops in my backyard but I promise they don't compensate or reimburse me in any way" 3......2.......1......


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Over the last nine years, many of our clients have said how much they appreciate being told NO! Here's one example https://www.twinandturbine.com/and-then-there-was-one/


Client lives in Dallas and you had him fly to Nashville/Stevens to do the work? There are some very quality and reputable shops in Dallas for C90A work, and better tax treatment for your customer

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"Shops are very busy these days and I can pull strings at shops in my backyard but I promise they don't compensate or reimburse me in any way" 3......2.......1......


I get that things could appear that way. I've spent literally dozens of hours talking to Chip over the last 4 years, through the purchase of a King Air 200, then a Mustang. I can assure you he has an objective opinion of Stevens. I know some shops pay a 'consulting fee' or whatever they want to call it to industry people who bring them business. In my heart of hearts, I do not think Chip has any such relationships. His business thrives on repeat customers. A KA90 buyer moves to an M2 in a few years, a CJ3 driver gets a TBM850 when he retires, and so on.

For their part, Stevens has always had a reputation for the highest quality service, and a price to match. It's been a go-to choice for pre-buy inspections, because they are so thorough. I took the King Air there before I bought it in 2021. Stevens has experienced hot and cold moments since the pandemic, just like every other shop in the country has.
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Over the last nine years, many of our clients have said how much they appreciate being told NO! Here's one example https://www.twinandturbine.com/and-then-there-was-one/


Client lives in Dallas and you had him fly to Nashville/Stevens to do the work? There are some very quality and reputable shops in Dallas for C90A work, and better tax treatment for your customer

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"Shops are very busy these days and I can pull strings at shops in my backyard but I promise they don't compensate or reimburse me in any way" 3......2.......1......


And the airplane was in Denton and I lived in Texas not Tennessee at that time.

If I thought you really cared why, I would explain it, but you just have an axe to grind with Stevens and that’s your point.

I don’t work for Stevens and I don’t owe them any defense, their reputation speaks for itself.

We also use Textron, West Star, Elliott, Duncan… just finished a Prebuy at Georgetown Turbines in Georgetown, Texas. Dropped a CJ2+ off at West Star in Grand Junction earlier today. You just bring up Stevens because you had a falling out with them.

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We had our first deal or no deal client this week, he was very pleased to pay for the work we did. And I am happy to say that we helped keep him from making a big mistake!

I truly wish that the details were not confidential, because this is a story I would love to share!


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We had our first deal or no deal client this week, he was very pleased to pay for the work we did. And I am happy to say that we helped keep him from making a big mistake!

I truly wish that the details were not confidential, because this is a story I would love to share!


Congrats on the first success. Although the details are confidential, you should be able to discuss the process - right?

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