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Post subject: Re: Cessna 210K (1970) and Later - Gotchas? Posted: 08 Oct 2019, 17:28 |
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What is the gross weight? I believe some 210’s were up to 4000lb? I feel like only the later models had highest gw.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 210K (1970) and Later - Gotchas? Posted: 08 Oct 2019, 17:48 |
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Joined: 09/29/15 Posts: 1356 Post Likes: +831 Location: 3N6-NJ, F45-FL
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Username Protected wrote: What is the gross weight? I believe some 210’s were up to 4000lb? I feel like only the later models had highest gw. Mine is 3800. The later ones go to 4100 I believe, but are heavier so useful load is similar.
_________________ Happy Landings, -Dave
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 210K (1970) and Later - Gotchas? Posted: 08 Oct 2019, 19:06 |
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Joined: 07/24/14 Posts: 1966 Post Likes: +2722
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Username Protected wrote: What is the gross weight? I believe some 210’s were up to 4000lb? I feel like only the later models had highest gw. I owned a '77 M model. Its factory GW was 3800, but there was an STC that increased it to 4000. IIRC, the STC only required that you have 6 ply tires and a logbook entry. Easy peasy. Fairly likely that it included K models as well.
_________________ Jay
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 210K (1970) and Later - Gotchas? Posted: 08 Oct 2019, 22:02 |
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Joined: 11/06/13 Posts: 426 Post Likes: +260 Location: KFTW-Fort Worth Meacham
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T210N gw is 4000. 210N is 3800. UL is not very different because of weight of turbo, plumbing, oxygen system, etc. About 1000 lbs UL with full fuel-90 gal.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 210K (1970) and Later - Gotchas? Posted: 08 Oct 2019, 22:19 |
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Joined: 06/02/15 Posts: 4182 Post Likes: +2900 Location: Fresno, CA (KFCH)
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Username Protected wrote: What is the gross weight? I believe some 210’s were up to 4000lb? I feel like only the later models had highest gw. I owned a '77 M model. Its factory GW was 3800, but there was an STC that increased it to 4000. IIRC, the STC only required that you have 6 ply tires and a logbook entry. Easy peasy. Fairly likely that it included K models as well.
Jay, same for me.
I think at some point the tire ply requirement was dropped.
I also think that STC might have started with the L models.
_________________ 1977 Cessna 210, with "elite" turbocharging.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 210K (1970) and Later - Gotchas? Posted: 09 Oct 2019, 11:32 |
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Joined: 11/29/15 Posts: 370 Post Likes: +580 Location: Longmont, CO
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Username Protected wrote: What are the gotchas for >=1970 Cessna 210s?
-The 1970 K model is the first without the gear saddle AD. -Is the steering collar that big a deal?
From what I can tell, most of the gear issues come from the gear door sequencing and gear saddle problems. Seems like buying a plane not subject to the AD with the Uvlade STC will eliminate most of the concerns with the gear system. Am I wrong?
What other strangeness can one expect when getting into 210K model or later?
I'm not buying yet but I am building my short list. This is just a question to clear up any misconceptions I have about the later 210s. I'm familiar with the 210L gear system. Most problems are electrical -- broken wires in the up and downlock and squat switches, and less often the switches themselves. The gear mod does nothing to prevent those problems because it doesn't remove any of the components that commonly fail, just the doors. A good way to avoid gear problems is to have the gear properly rigged using the Cessna SE960 go/no-go gages. Most 210s have never had that done and most mechanics have never done it. While he's in there, your mechanic can inspect and repair suspect wiring.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 210K (1970) and Later - Gotchas? Posted: 14 Oct 2019, 16:05 |
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Joined: 12/12/17 Posts: 389 Post Likes: +154
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I have a 210L Non-turbo. Owned it for a year, and flown 70 hours so far. Paul New did my prebuy, it was worth its weight in gold. John Effinger is another expert. You can't go wrong with either of them. I still have the gear doors, and glad that I do - the plane looks cleaner and it is a little faster.
The most important thing I learned from Paul was "LOWER THE GEAR IN THE WHITE ARC IF YOU HAVE DOORS". I have never used the gear as a brake. I always lower it on final because with the gear down and at idle, the plane is coming down, fast.
I have 1,550 lbs of UL, I have the seat behind the pilot out and I fly at 10.5k, 155kts at 13GPH, which is 40degrees ROP and 53% power. With 90 gallons I can go a long time.
As others have said, the gear problems are mostly electrical -the wires and micro switches are the causes of most gremlins. Knock on wood it hasn't happened to me yet. But I have the Cessna "tools", and my mechanic went to Paul New's 210 class (another must do for owner and mechanic) to learn about the gear. They spend a whole day on the gear.
I looked a Bonanza - I have 3 kids plus my wife and the incremental cost of the Bo + the lower UL and less fuel (without tips) pushed me to a 210. And being in AZ I like the shade the wings provide.
If i had to do it again, I would choose the 210, again. Yes the gear worries me (a little), but I try and treat it nicely and so far it has returned the favor.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 210K (1970) and Later - Gotchas? Posted: 14 Oct 2019, 16:56 |
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Joined: 10/21/12 Posts: 1659 Post Likes: +527 Location: SW USA
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Username Protected wrote: I have a 210L Non-turbo...
I looked a Bonanza - I have 3 kids plus my wife and the incremental cost of the Bo + the lower UL and less fuel (without tips) pushed me to a 210. And being in AZ I like the shade the wings provide. This is pretty much where I am, minus a kid. Losing a little speed for a higher UL, two doors, and a high wing is a fair trade. I owned a V35B pre-kids. It was probably a little faster than a NA 210 but that was about it. Still had to climb over the wing and the CG was always a worry. My only 210 time is in a T210N. It would take full tanks + 220lb pilot + another ~850 pounds of stuff. I was impressed with it.
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 210K (1970) and Later - Gotchas? Posted: 17 Oct 2019, 11:51 |
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Joined: 12/12/17 Posts: 389 Post Likes: +154
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Username Protected wrote: My advise is buy the best one you can afford that is ready to go, every dollar you put in you'll be lucky to get ten cents back out...... Good luck. bk When i was a kid (1980s-1990s) my dad had a 210. He purchased a wrecked 210 in order to take parts from because he said the cessna parts were too expensive. i always though Bonanza parts were outrageously expensive......then I bought a 210.....
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Post subject: Re: Cessna 210K (1970) and Later - Gotchas? Posted: 08 Nov 2019, 00:39 |
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Joined: 07/29/16 Posts: 1686 Post Likes: +942 Location: KMKE, WI, USA
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Username Protected wrote: Also, you need a hydraulic mule to do gear swings at annual. If your shop doesn’t have one, you’ll have to buy it. The Cessna groups actually advise against using a mule to swing the gear at annual. Doing so is a primary source of contaminants in the hydraulic system. Your connecting your airplane to every other hydraulic system that mule has been with. Use the hand pump to swing the gear at annual. Thankfully mine was a 74L so I didn't have to worry about that. Someone mentioned the 74L didn't have the GAMA POH. Interestingly the 76L does. I always wanted to pick one up for mine, but I never did.
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