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Post subject: Re: Help Match a Plane to this Mission Posted: 27 Aug 2019, 13:05 |
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Username Protected wrote: Pressurization adds almost no work load but dramatically improves the experience. ^^^^^ This! Pressurization radically changes the experience. When it comes time for you to go turboprop, having pressurized experience will help. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Help Match a Plane to this Mission Posted: 27 Aug 2019, 13:13 |
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Username Protected wrote: Pressurization adds almost no work load but dramatically improves the experience. ^^^^^ This! Pressurization radically changes the experience. When it comes time for you to go turboprop, having pressurized experience will help. Mike C.
How do you guys like the 58P? More expensive I guess
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Post subject: Re: Help Match a Plane to this Mission Posted: 27 Aug 2019, 13:34 |
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Joined: 03/24/19 Posts: 1509 Post Likes: +2136 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Ray - if you want to fly more than 6 months of the year, deice capability is a must, especially on those Nova Scotia runs. Not having deice means you park the airplane from Hallowe'en through Easter.
I regularly fly from eastern Ontario to New Brunswick... in the summer. I don't have FIKI, thus have seen so many opportunities to make that trip tossed in the can because of icing.
Even with deice capability, there is enough truly nasty winter weather that you'll want to be prepared to cancel trips. Where you store the airplane in Nova Scotia while a crippling blizzard blows through might also be an eye-opener in terms of cost and availability.
The other thing to remember is that fuel down east is painfully expensive. I just paid $2.43/litre in New Brunswick - that's CAD$9.17/US gallon or about US$6.45/US Gallon. It hurts when you're taking on several hundred litres at a time!
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Post subject: Re: Help Match a Plane to this Mission Posted: 27 Aug 2019, 13:59 |
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Username Protected wrote: Why do you need fiki as opposed to deice equipment?
Booted twins are quite capable Well, what Mark said sounds like. Less waiting around for no icing anywhere en route. And why not really? Heavy duty icing area, why not go for it
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Post subject: Re: Help Match a Plane to this Mission Posted: 27 Aug 2019, 14:02 |
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Username Protected wrote: Navajo or Barron What sort of Navajo do you get for $150k?
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Post subject: Re: Help Match a Plane to this Mission Posted: 27 Aug 2019, 14:14 |
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Username Protected wrote: Why do you need fiki as opposed to deice equipment?
Booted twins are quite capable Well, what Mark said sounds like. Less waiting around for no icing anywhere en route. And why not really? Heavy duty icing area, why not go for it
The post '85/under $150 requirement is close to a perfectly square circle to start. Add FIKI and forget it.
Planes were flying in ice LONG before "FIKI" was invented. That's a regulatory creation of the late 70's. A twin with boots and alcohol props/windshields is a reasonable airplane to purposely fly into ice. Just because you know you are flying into ice doesn't mean you need FIKI. (At least in the US)
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Post subject: Re: Help Match a Plane to this Mission Posted: 27 Aug 2019, 14:24 |
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Username Protected wrote: Sounds like 55 Baron is out.
Any of the above easy to find in FIKI? 421 probably hey What about a Seneca II? IIRC they can be made FIKI complaint. It's a decent traveling plane. Not amazing, but decent. They carry ice reasonably well and the large back door is a plus.
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Post subject: Re: Help Match a Plane to this Mission Posted: 27 Aug 2019, 14:33 |
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Username Protected wrote: I'd want turbine, too. And there are some options starting in the $200-250K range.
Mike C.
Some examples?
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