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Post subject: Re: Cirrus Jet  Posted: 25 May 2018, 14:53 |
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Username Protected wrote: I absolutely, positively, 100% guarantee you that the SF-50 is at least 50% easier to fly than the Red Bo is. "Easier to fly" is not the same as "easy to pass check ride". A jet type rating is held to ATP standards and you got to know a lot of stuff. The actual flying the thing by hand is just a small part of being a jet pilot. Mike C.
Yes my first jet type was tough. But not as hard as operating our pumpkin planter. Many types of equipment are hard to learn to run. Airplanes are on that spectrum, not the easiest but far from the hardest.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus Jet Posted: 25 May 2018, 16:53 |
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Username Protected wrote: Yes my first jet type was tough. But not as hard as operating our pumpkin planter. Many types of equipment are hard to learn to run. Airplanes are on that spectrum, not the easiest but far from the hardest. That's funny. Makes me curious about running a pumpkin planter. I believe Cirrus does all the training in Knoxville at their training center. From what I've read it's a great program. I imagine that Cirrus is pretty motivated to turn out highly prepared, type rated pilots, that can safely fly their new plane. Having examiners deny type ratings wouldn't be good for business.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus Jet Posted: 25 May 2018, 17:02 |
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Username Protected wrote: Yes my first jet type was tough. But not as hard as operating our pumpkin planter. Many types of equipment are hard to learn to run. Airplanes are on that spectrum, not the easiest but far from the hardest. That's funny. Makes me curious about running a pumpkin planter. I believe Cirrus does all the training in Knoxville at their training center. From what I've read it's a great program. I imagine that they Cirrus is pretty motivated to turn out highly prepared, type rated pilots, that can safely fly their new plane. Having examiners deny type ratings wouldn't be good for business.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus Jet Posted: 25 May 2018, 17:13 |
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Username Protected wrote: Paper factory Are you implying that Cirrus wants poorly trained pilots flying their new flagship jet? If so that doesn't make good business sense. It also doesn't fit into the company that invests so much money in training pilots to fly safely. Don't forget, they are an airplane manufacturer that pays a Cirrus Standardized Instructor Pilot to teach the buyer how to fly their new to them plane. Doesn't matter if they sell it, Neil Swartz sells it or a private person sells it. Buy a used Cirrus and corporate will pay to train the buyer.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus Jet Posted: 25 May 2018, 19:11 |
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Username Protected wrote: Paper factory Are you implying that Cirrus wants poorly trained pilots flying their new flagship jet? If so that doesn't make good business sense. It also doesn't fit into the company that invests so much money in training pilots to fly safely. Don't forget, they are an airplane manufacturer that pays a Cirrus Standardized Instructor Pilot to teach the buyer how to fly their new to them plane. Doesn't matter if they sell it, Neil Swartz sells it or a private person sells it. Buy a used Cirrus and corporate will pay to train the buyer.
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Cirrus won't sell many planes if they can't get the owners insured.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus Jet Posted: 25 May 2018, 19:37 |
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Luc are you serious or did you just want your own 400 page thread...  I’ve read your exploits for years and have no doubt you’ll pass the checkride. Of course you can paint the jet red. In fact it would simply be wrong for you NOT to paint your next V Tail that color! And, the kids inheritance still belongs to you! Why work hard all your life not to enjoy your passions after the kids are grown, educated and responsible for their own live? Do it!
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus Jet Posted: 25 May 2018, 20:02 |
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Username Protected wrote: If you purchase a position, what is the "all in" cost for a near-future delivery? I haven’t dared to make the call yet.....
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus Jet Posted: 25 May 2018, 20:04 |
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Username Protected wrote: Luc are you serious or did you just want your own 400 page thread... I’ve read your exploits for years and have no doubt you’ll pass the checkride. Of course you can paint the jet red. In fact it would simply be wrong for you NOT to paint your next V Tail that color! And, the kids inheritance still belongs to you! Why work hard all your life not to enjoy your passions after the kids are grown, educated and responsible for their own live? Do it! 400 page thread.... 
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus Jet Posted: 25 May 2018, 20:32 |
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Username Protected wrote: Luc are you serious or did you just want your own 400 page thread... I’ve read your exploits for years and have no doubt you’ll pass the checkride. Of course you can paint the jet red. In fact it would simply be wrong for you NOT to paint your next V Tail that color! And, the kids inheritance still belongs to you! Why work hard all your life not to enjoy your passions after the kids are grown, educated and responsible for their own live? Do it! 400 page thread....
Somebody got a problem with that? 
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus Jet Posted: 25 May 2018, 22:20 |
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Username Protected wrote: To spend the kids inheritance or not to, that is the question.....  That’s assuming I’m good enough of a pilot to earn the rating.......  They want you to, really.  You could try taking a course and sample the training, but from what I gather of your experience, no problem! 
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus Jet Posted: 25 May 2018, 22:43 |
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Username Protected wrote: Adam, Luv needs a Red Vision or a Red TBM, both fit his missions and use perfectly.
I hope I get a ride! Those are the two on my list.
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