Good one. about $50k to replace one screen iirc

Jaysus - a guy does a nice wheelie and you guys are trashing his technique and equipment? Tough crowd.

Ha - I wasn’t flying but i flew over to Nassau the other day with the owner and I’m quite sure he left the nose on the ground longer than I would have! You know how nice they fly off ... no need to rotate

Not that I know from experience when I was in my young 20s and might have considered such things, but if you over gross the hell out of a Cheyenne on the way to New Orleans for Mardi Gras because too many women show up at the airport and they’re all too attractive to turn away you’ll take off like that...and pray until you burn off the next 750lbs that you don’t pop a motor.

Watching stuff like this gives me goosebumps. I’m glad he got away with it.

He greased the takeoff...

It looks like he used about 3,000’ (ballparking based on runway markings - could be wrong). What is the normal ground roll for a loaded Commander?

I'm with Bruce, nice wheelie.

What you cant see is he had only one hand on the yoke while flashing a peace sign with the other.

This is how you pop a wheelie!

It looks like he used about 3,000’ (ballparking based on runway markings - could be wrong). What is the normal ground roll for a loaded Commander?

That’s what I’m thinking- that thing should be off much more spritely, and having the nose up that way indicates to me he thinks is he’s leaving the earth...and that took WAY too long...
...but I wasn’t there, so WTHDIK.

You say two good looking women and you had to burn off 750#

When you run TOLD in the Turbo Commander, is there a published Vmcg for various weights and runway conditions?

Nothing like that available.

VMCA is 93 kts based on the FAA certification requirement conditions, aft cg, gross weight etc. I rotate at 95kts so during an engine failure at nose wheel liftoff you are already above VMCA.

For VMCG all I can say is the rudder is big on the Commander and would be useable down to some low speeds.

What is your concern?

If you abort on the runway you will be pulling power off so there will be no continuos differential thrust. About the only time it would come into play is if you lost one engine and the other one did not respond to throttle movement.

I do remember seeing a UPS DC-8 with the big engines have a problem with VMCG on a take off.

I was behind the DC-8 at the old Stapleton Airport when tower cleared him for an immediate takeoff.

He did a rolling takeoff and the engines did not spool up evenly. He veered left then right the left again until he finally got it pointed straight.

The entire time the nose tires were pouring white smoke from the skidding.

Crazy! I remember looking for chunks of rubber it case he left us a present!

Definitely a VMCG demonstration.

Maybe he forgot to put the condition levers to TO/LAND?

It was amateur hour for sure.

This was before UPS pilots were UPS pilots.

UPS subcontracted their flying and the pay for pilots was pathetic no matter what you were flying.

They got what they paid for that day!