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Post subject: Re: Help Me Think Through This Supercub Thing Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 11:37 |
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Joined: 05/11/10 Posts: 13375 Post Likes: +13204 Location: Indiana
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Username Protected wrote: Nobody should ever fault a man for buying what he's always wanted. I certainly wouldn't. I don't care if you fly it with 31 inch tundra tires that never touch dirt, more power to you. I saw a banner for the Recreational Aircraft Foundation that said, "It's the Reason You Learned to Fly." Pretty close to the mark in my case. Owning a Supercub that never lands off-airport is like wearing cowboy boots but never riding a horse. I do that all the time. But having 31" tires is more like wearing spurs! Quote: Sometimes, Mission ain't everything.
Good luck. You're right. And thanks.
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Post subject: Re: Help Me Think Through This Supercub Thing Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 11:38 |
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Joined: 05/11/10 Posts: 13375 Post Likes: +13204 Location: Indiana
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Username Protected wrote: decent Champ available down here for about 25k. Just saying. HA! If you'd just sold me your 185 I wouldn't be having this trouble!
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Post subject: Re: Help Me Think Through This Supercub Thing Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 11:40 |
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Joined: 05/11/10 Posts: 13375 Post Likes: +13204 Location: Indiana
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Username Protected wrote: Stu, I get it. I really do.
About 8 years or so ago I got really hot on buying a Super Cub. I could never find a decent one at anything approaching what I considered a decent price. I bought a 91 Husky for less....a lot less...
I flew the Husky for about 6 years, had a great time with it. Let my son finish his private pilot license, fly it some, taught a couple people to fly in it. Finally decided I *really* wanted a super cub.
sold the husky.
Still couldn’t find a decent Super Cub....really, at any price. Bought a really nice 185 for less than some of the Super Cubs I could find. Nice IFR panel, excellent shape. I’ve flown it about 250 hours over the past year. Just love it. Great, capable airplane. Not fabric, so if it has to remain outside for a day or two I don’t worry as much as I do with a fabric plane. Can carry 4 people, decent speed cross country, and I’ve put it everywhere I would put a Super Cub.
Darn it, I still want a Super Cub.
stan I remember your Husky being for sale. I even talked with Neil about it. I'm an idiot.
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Post subject: Re: Help Me Think Through This Supercub Thing Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 11:46 |
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Joined: 05/11/10 Posts: 13375 Post Likes: +13204 Location: Indiana
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Username Protected wrote: If you are worried about possibly getting bored with it, I'd obviously not touch anything but a turn key, easy to resell specimen. Given the crowd at the high-priced end of the market, do you really think it would be easier to resell an expensive one? I wonder if my option #1 ("Buy ratty. Sell ratty") might be better. There's a bigger market for $50k toys than $90k toys, I'd think. Though I guess the $50k shoppers would rather have a nice PA-12, a 95-hp SC, or a really nice J-3. Keep the comments coming! You guys are helping me think!
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Post subject: Re: Help Me Think Through This Supercub Thing Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 11:48 |
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Stuart Fraley wrote:
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"2) Buy ratty, fix up, fly until I'm too inflexible to enter a Cub."
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that looks like a good option…..
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Post subject: Re: Help Me Think Through This Supercub Thing Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 11:58 |
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Username Protected wrote: If you are worried about possibly getting bored with it, I'd obviously not touch anything but a turn key, easy to resell specimen. Given the crowd at the high-priced end of the market, do you really think it would be easier to resell an expensive one? I wonder if my option #1 ("Buy ratty. Sell ratty") might be better. There's a bigger market for $50k toys than $90k toys, I'd think. Though I guess the $50k shoppers would rather have a nice PA-12, a 95-hp SC, or a really nice J-3. Keep the comments coming! You guys are helping me think!
No, I definitely did not mean the high end of the market. I was thinking stay away from anything that would give the next buyer pause......like old fabric or an engine with 1700 hours. Middle of the road reseller is exactly what you want I'd guess.
You got this figured out already. You just need the extra push. Do it. It's a toy. Life ain't getting any longer these days.
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Post subject: Re: Help Me Think Through This Supercub Thing Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 12:09 |
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3 undeniable truths about the original supercub:
1. PA18 is too small inside to take advantage of its weight carrying capability. there are other planes that have a lot more space. 2. PA18 is too slow to go far, and as a result it has to carry more fuel to go the same distance. There are other STOL planes that go faster and cover more ground carrying less fuel weight 3. PA18 is hard to buy and easy to sell because everyone prefers it to every one of the other options
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Post subject: Re: Help Me Think Through This Supercub Thing Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 12:53 |
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Joined: 11/06/13 Posts: 426 Post Likes: +260 Location: KFTW-Fort Worth Meacham
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Stuart- I have owned (with my father) a 1979 Supercub with 180 hp, a 1949 PA-14 (four place cub) with 150 hp, and 1978 Supercub with 150 hp and currently own a 2014 American Super Legend (light sport) with 115 hp. Along the way, I owned a C185 with Robertson Stol.
I have flown 170's, Champs, Citabria's, and 140's. They are not Cubs. Great airplanes, but they will not scratch the itch. I have not flown the Husky. From what I hear, the Husky is also a good airplane but does not fly like a cub. C185 is a different league and not as much fun for low and slow.
Cubcrafters and American Legend both make good products. The American Legend airplanes are nice because they are 3 inches wider than a stock PA18 and have doors on both sides. The construction is comparable or better than a stock Supercub and the light sport designation is an added bonus. My 115 hp performs like a 150 hp Supercub, plus I have new fabric, no corrosion, modern avionics and a Catto prop (not available on Supercubs).
There are plenty of good shops that can rebuild a Supercub. None are fast and all are expensive. Call Cubcrafters, American Legend, Dan's in Anchorage, Steve Pierce in Graham, Texas, and a few others and see if they have a lead on a customer who is getting ready to sell.
Finally, to confirm you are on the right track: I checked out a 30,000 hour pilot in my Cub yesterday. He had a grin from ear to ear and was ready to trade is 310 on the spot. He said it was the most fun he has had in an airplane in years.
Ed
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Post subject: Re: Help Me Think Through This Supercub Thing Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 14:19 |
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#3 Buy a nice one that YOU don't feel you have to do anything to and then fly it. That is the only way to go. As soon as you start making modifications you are throwing a lot of money out the window AND you will be without the plane for a long time which isn't fun no matter who you are.
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Post subject: Re: Help Me Think Through This Supercub Thing Posted: 10 Aug 2017, 14:31 |
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Username Protected wrote: Stu, I get it. I really do.
About 8 years or so ago I got really hot on buying a Super Cub. I could never find a decent one at anything approaching what I considered a decent price. I bought a 91 Husky for less....a lot less...
I flew the Husky for about 6 years, had a great time with it. Let my son finish his private pilot license, fly it some, taught a couple people to fly in it. Finally decided I *really* wanted a super cub.
sold the husky.
Still couldn’t find a decent Super Cub....really, at any price. Bought a really nice 185 for less than some of the Super Cubs I could find. Nice IFR panel, excellent shape. I’ve flown it about 250 hours over the past year. Just love it. Great, capable airplane. Not fabric, so if it has to remain outside for a day or two I don’t worry as much as I do with a fabric plane. Can carry 4 people, decent speed cross country, and I’ve put it everywhere I would put a Super Cub.
Darn it, I still want a Super Cub.
stan I remember your Husky being for sale. I even talked with Neil about it. I'm an idiot.
I have a really nice 185 for sale....couple of the guys here have seen it...
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