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Post subject: Re: 1500 miles westbound planes? Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 09:03 |
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Joined: 02/13/10 Posts: 20368 Post Likes: +25498 Location: Castle Rock, Colorado
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Username Protected wrote: I like to land with at least 500lbs of fuel. I love it when you guys talk about fuel in "pounds." I like to land with at least 140 pounds of fuel in the 310... 
_________________ Arlen Get your motor runnin' Head out on the highway - Mars Bonfire
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Post subject: Re: 1500 miles westbound planes? Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 09:15 |
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Username Protected wrote: Last week. West Bound. How much fuel did you land with?
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Post subject: Re: 1500 miles westbound planes? Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 09:17 |
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Joined: 01/29/08 Posts: 26338 Post Likes: +13085 Location: Walterboro, SC. KRBW
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Username Protected wrote: Last week. West Bound. How much fuel did you land with? 450Lbs
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Post subject: Re: 1500 miles westbound planes? Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 10:50 |
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Joined: 11/08/12 Posts: 7725 Post Likes: +5112 Location: Live in San Carlos, CA - based Hayward, CA KHWD
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Username Protected wrote: Can an MU-2 do this? As Anthony said, no. I have flown KOMA-KSQL westbound in the Solitaire, about 1250 nm. I have flown KDTO-KSQL, similar distance. Light headwinds, maybe ~20 kts. Wouldn't do it unless destination was definite VFR. But landed with about 500 lbs, about an hour in cruise (less maneuvering down low, however). But I have gone coast to coast westbound a couple times and only made one fuel stop. Not every time... :-)
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Post subject: Re: 1500 miles westbound planes? Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 10:57 |
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Say you find the unicorn airplane that can fit this profile. Do you really want to sit in it for 6/7/8 hrs without getting out to stretch/take a bathroom break/eat a meal? I'm ready to get out of any airplane after about 3 hrs. Good luck in your search! 
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Post subject: Re: 1500 miles westbound planes? Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 11:03 |
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Joined: 03/03/11 Posts: 2071 Post Likes: +2175
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Username Protected wrote: Last week. West Bound. How much fuel did you land with? 450Lbs[/quote]
That is solid. What alt and what true air speed? Also, what is your fuel burn in cruise?
Pc12 is such a cool plane.
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Post subject: Re: 1500 miles westbound planes? Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 11:15 |
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Joined: 01/16/11 Posts: 11068 Post Likes: +7098 Location: Somewhere Over the Rainbow
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We should maybe define westbound planes a little more in terms of wind. I think that the PC12 is so versatile in this area because it can go lower and higher, depending on winds and not suffer that much from fuel burn differences. If the winds are > 20 knots then the PC12 ain't doing that with enough reserves to make it comfortable. In Jason's example he most probably only had about a 5-10 headwind......given the avg groundspeed...... And my airplane is quite a few knots faster than Jasons 
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Post subject: Re: 1500 miles westbound planes? Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 12:54 |
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Joined: 11/09/13 Posts: 1910 Post Likes: +927 Location: KCMA
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The later commanders can do it. 474 gallons no need for extra tanks.
Of course It all depends like everything else in aviation.
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Post subject: Re: 1500 miles westbound planes? Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 13:32 |
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Username Protected wrote: Of course It all depends like everything else in aviation. Which is what you'll need after 6+ hours. 
_________________ "No comment until the time limit is up."
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Post subject: Re: 1500 miles westbound planes? Posted: 12 Sep 2016, 13:50 |
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Joined: 01/29/08 Posts: 26338 Post Likes: +13085 Location: Walterboro, SC. KRBW
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Username Protected wrote: That is solid. What alt and what true air speed? Also, what is your fuel burn in cruise?
Pc12 is such a cool plane.
The info is in that pic I posted. I cruise in the 260's. I had a headwind the whole way. Flew at FL280 burning about 360PPH. Landed with 450Lbs. The only single pilot planes that will beat it are CJ3, CJ4 and Phenom.
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