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 Post subject: Re: The Textron Scorpion Lives!
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You clearly do not understand how the planned expansion of government works.


I clearly understand the constitutional duties and enumerated powers of the US Federal Government, which include providing for the common defense. Perhaps you'd enjoy a review of the enumerated powers. You clearly do not understand how the enumerated powers work.

Given that I've seen in my lifetime four large civilian aircraft commandeered and utilized as weapons in an undeclared war that killed 3000 Americans and damaged the Pentagon, it would seem that maintaining effective defensive perimeters in the national airspace would quite clearly fall into the category of "providing for the common defense."

How that is done and what we pay for it are reasonable discussions.

On the other hand, I'm far more concerned about the government expansion into aspects of the nation in which they clearly do not have the constitutional authority nor duty to do so.

But hey, it is a lot easier to pop-off like a ignorant fool than it is to educate oneself on such things and apply some grey matter to the issue.


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You clearly do not understand how the planned expansion of government works.


I clearly understand the constitutional duties and enumerated powers of the US Federal Government, which include providing for the common defense. Perhaps you'd enjoy a review of the enumerated powers. You clearly do not understand how the enumerated powers work.

Given that I've seen in my lifetime four large civilian aircraft commandeered and utilized as weapons in an undeclared war that killed 3000 Americans and damaged the Pentagon, it would seem that maintaining effective defensive perimeters in the national airspace would quite clearly fall into the category of "providing for the common defense."

How that is done and what we pay for it are reasonable discussions.

On the other hand, I'm far more concerned about the government expansion into aspects of the nation in which they clearly do not have the constitutional authority nor duty to do so.

But hey, it is a lot easier to pop-off like a ignorant fool than it is to educate oneself on such things and apply some grey matter to the issue.


Careful Larry. Others have been disappeared for less.
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You clearly do not understand how the planned expansion of government works.


I clearly understand the constitutional duties and enumerated powers of the US Federal Government, which include providing for the common defense. Perhaps you'd enjoy a review of the enumerated powers. You clearly do not understand how the enumerated powers work.

Given that I've seen in my lifetime four large civilian aircraft commandeered and utilized as weapons in an undeclared war that killed 3000 Americans and damaged the Pentagon, it would seem that maintaining effective defensive perimeters in the national airspace would quite clearly fall into the category of "providing for the common defense."

How that is done and what we pay for it are reasonable discussions.

On the other hand, I'm far more concerned about the government expansion into aspects of the nation in which they clearly do not have the constitutional authority nor duty to do so.

But hey, it is a lot easier to pop-off like a ignorant fool than it is to educate oneself on such things and apply some grey matter to the issue.


Uh... Sarcasm, dude. I thought it was so obvious that no green font was required... I see I was mistaken. We are very much in agreement. :cheers:
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I hope they build the Scorpion or whatever they call it. I want to ride in one.


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Uh... Sarcasm, dude. I thought it was so obvious that no green font was required... I see I was mistaken. We are very much in agreement. :cheers:


Yes, it was clearly obvious sarcasm.........at least to me......but I'm a sarcastic sumbeech, so...... :scratch:

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Whew!

You guys had me worried.

And yes, how cool would it be if this aircraft could fill a legitimate need at a much lower cost than traditional practice?

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I hope they build the Scorpion or whatever they call it. I want to ride in one.


Ditto. I'm still trying to get a ride in a fighter here in Vegas and these dang pilots keep writing checks they aren't willing to cash. "Sure we'll get you up" and then they disappear when they get what they need from you. Just like women :D !

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I don't get it. Seems like it's something designed to look like a military plane at a higher cost. Why not just add some hard points to a citation and chop the price in half ?


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Jeff,

Why would the govt be interested at half cost when there's the opportunity to pay full price plus a premium?


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There was a song once had a few lyrics that rang true,

"Come on Wall Street, don't be slow,
Why man, this is war au-go-go
There's plenty good money to be made
By supplying the Army with the tools of its trade,
But just hope and pray that if they drop the bomb,
They drop it on the Viet Cong."

Maybe that hippie knew more than he looked like he did.

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Maybe that hippie knew more than he looked like he did.

Smedley Butler had similar sentiments too and he wasn't the first either.


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