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Post subject: Re: What kind of plane is this?  Posted: 04 May 2016, 09:47 |
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Good morning, Username Protected wrote: Back in the olde days it was rare for a commuter airline to have autopilots on their turboprops.
Beech 99s, 1300s, 1900s Metroliners, Jetstreams etc rarely were autopilot equipped. So a pilot who had 2000 hours of commuter time had 2000 actual hours of flying, whereas today, that same pilot, with 2000 logged hours, has 50 hours of actual hand flying. That could explain a lot. Mike C.
Great point Mike! Great point.
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Post subject: Re: What kind of plane is this? Posted: 04 May 2016, 13:18 |
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Username Protected wrote: Back in the olde days it was rare for a commuter airline to have autopilots on their turboprops.
Beech 99s, 1300s, 1900s Metroliners, Jetstreams etc rarely were autopilot equipped. So a pilot who had 2000 hours of commuter time had 2000 actual hours of flying, whereas today, that same pilot, with 2000 logged hours, has 50 hours of actual hand flying. That could explain a lot. Mike C.
Hi Mike,
Great observation.
To which I'd add no GPS or FMS. Hand flown IFR with VOR/DME, usually to places with little or no radar service.
You got on your game pretty quick.
Fun times.
Best,
Rich
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Post subject: Re: What kind of plane is this? Posted: 04 May 2016, 19:41 |
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Username Protected wrote: Back in the olde days it was rare for a commuter airline to have autopilots on their turboprops.
Beech 99s, 1300s, 1900s Metroliners, Jetstreams etc rarely were autopilot equipped. Oh, they had autopilots all right. It was called "First Officer". I am sure some of them were even named Otto. 
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Post subject: Re: What kind of plane is this? Posted: 04 May 2016, 22:26 |
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Username Protected wrote: Yuri, "George" here in the States..  Sometimes called "she" when she decides to do her own thing.  Guess you didn't get the reference. [youtube]https://youtu.be/FAROv-V783s[/youtube]
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Post subject: Re: What kind of plane is this? Posted: 04 May 2016, 22:28 |
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Username Protected wrote: [Guess you didn't get the reference.
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Post subject: Re: What kind of plane is this? Posted: 09 May 2016, 00:45 |
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Username Protected wrote: Back in the olde days it was rare for a commuter airline to have autopilots on their turboprops.
Beech 99s, 1300s, 1900s Metroliners, Jetstreams etc rarely were autopilot equipped. Oh, they had autopilots all right. It was called "First Officer". I am sure some of them were even named Otto.
Not if you flew boxes for AmFlight. No autopilots and all single pilot flying. The wife was saying it got mighty busy going into KRNO carrying a load of ice and shooting an approach at the same time!!
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