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Post subject: Re: 6 seat single question Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 11:19 |
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Joined: 04/28/12 Posts: 4976 Post Likes: +3597 Location: Kansas City, KS (KLXT)
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Username Protected wrote: I was in your position, looking at the same airframes, and worked out that a nice 55 could be had for far less than 210/cherokee6/lance. I bought my baron mostly because it was cheap to get into, and then worked out it is a fabulous airplane. I realize I was fortunate, but I owned mine for 4 years, and never came close to spending the difference in acquisition costs. I don't see that the second motor and prop cost that much more to own. Ron I gave some fairly serious consideration to buying an Aztec recently, and it's not the "everything's going fine" costs that scared me, it's the exposure of having another $40-50k engine (and a second set of accessories) hanging out there that COULD go wrong.
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Post subject: Re: 6 seat single question Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 12:04 |
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Joined: 05/13/14 Posts: 9136 Post Likes: +7661 Location: Central Texas (KTPL)
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Michael, I think you would be smart to stick to your budget and not push it.
Frankly, I'd get a Cherokee Six if I were you, although I do believe you can find a Lance for a $100K if you wait long enough. I have flown a 6-260 with my family and while it's never fast, it's a very useful airplane. No, it doesn't "handle" or feel particularly sporty, but the cabin is awesome if you get club seating. Hard to get out of CG limits, and overloading is unlikely.
I would try to get a tapered wing Saratoga, but they are tough to find at $100K.
If you're lucky, you might find a Cherokee Six with [working] air conditioning.
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Post subject: Re: 6 seat single question Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 16:59 |
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Joined: 09/25/11 Posts: 115 Post Likes: +39 Company: Atlas Truck Sales Inc. Location: Houston,Tx.
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I have a nice 78 Piper Lance for sale listed on Controller. N47711, I will try to send a link.Straight tail,non turbo. We can deal on it.
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Post subject: Re: 6 seat single question Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 17:41 |
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Username Protected wrote: it's the exposure of having another $40-50k engine (and a second set of accessories) hanging out there that COULD go wrong. Yes, It COULD go wrong, but...you have another one(engine/accessories) along for the ride. Redundancy is nice. Very comforting when the wife and kids are along. Oh Crap...I think I just started another single vs twin debate 
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Post subject: Re: 6 seat single question Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 17:44 |
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Username Protected wrote: I have a nice 78 Piper Lance for sale listed on Controller. N47711, I will try to send a link.Straight tail,non turbo. We can deal on it. Nearly 850 lb full fuel payload...incredible. Good looking airplane!
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Post subject: Re: 6 seat single question Posted: 12 Mar 2016, 08:25 |
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Username Protected wrote: Do you need 6 seats or 5? A 5th seat in the back of a V-tail (plus a yaw damper) would suit your 7 year old. Put mom and baby in the middle, you and #2 up front. FIFY Dramamine isn't likely to be a good solution long-term. The YD is a cost, but less than the upgrade cost of a new ride. All of that assumes Mike's 35 has room in the envelope for a 5 th passenger, some can't manage three.
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Post subject: Re: 6 seat single question Posted: 12 Mar 2016, 09:12 |
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Joined: 12/29/14 Posts: 8383 Post Likes: +5334 Location: Brunswick, Ga
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Username Protected wrote: I have a nice 78 Piper Lance for sale listed on Controller. N47711, I will try to send a link.Straight tail,non turbo. We can deal on it. Nearly 850 lb full fuel payload...incredible. Good looking airplane!
I looked at it too, but in that price range, he has a lot of competition with panels that completely blow his away. Most at $120k are going to have 430/530Ws at least, lots of upgrades and so on.
Nice looking plane, but he needs to be around 100k asking to get calls in my opinion. I have been shopping the PA32 series for about a year now so I feel qualified to say that based on my finger on the pulse if you will in the used market. I hope to purchase in the next few months.
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Post subject: Re: 6 seat single question Posted: 12 Mar 2016, 09:16 |
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Joined: 12/29/14 Posts: 8383 Post Likes: +5334 Location: Brunswick, Ga
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Username Protected wrote: That said - the club seating in a PA32 is going to be very friendly for your wife loading and managing 3 small kids. Plus plenty of room for carseats.
This is exactly my scenario. I'd love to have an A36, it just doesn't have the utility of the PA32s. Like buying a Panamerica when you rally should have bought the Escalade.
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