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 Post subject: Re: Cessna 404 - if you're looking for a big plane
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If you want a big airplane the Cessna 401,402 404, 411 are it. Cabin class 6-8 seats. I have a friend with a 401 and it is definitely a big airplane with a fairly comfortable cabin. They are reasonable priced, many around 100K. however for a cabin class, most lack the amenities of other cabin class airplanes. They are not pressurized so you are restricted to 10-12 cruise altitude. Many do not have anti-ice. You can find known ice yet will pay more and these airplanes were built in late 60's and 70,s so you need a good pre-buy to avoid maintenance issues. My friends hot plate windshield does not work and they no longer make the one that he needs. He found a used one for 15K yet has not made a decision on it. He just had a 30K annual. Had to replace an exhaust for 15K etc. He flight plans 190 kts at 10-12 k ft and 38 gal/hr.


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The 404 is substantially larger than the 401/402/411. The latter basically use the 414/421 airframe. The 404 is the 441 airframe. You could probably put a double club arrangement in the back. They're HUGE. I looked into them a bit. Seems like prices run more toward the $250K range because they are (?were) valued as working airplanes. 3000# useful load will move a lot of cargo.


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My friends hot plate windshield does not work and they no longer make the one that he needs. He found a used one for 15K yet has not made a decision on it. He just had a 30K annual. Had to replace an exhaust for 15K etc. He flight plans 190 kts at 10-12 k ft and 38 gal/hr.



Drop off the airplane at the local jet center, tell them to fix everything, and that's what you'll pay.

I can tell you that the 421C (similar cost airframe) that I manage has bills no where near what he has been paying. Our customers 414 also sees bills significantly less than that!

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My friends hot plate windshield does not work and they no longer make the one that he needs. He found a used one for 15K yet has not made a decision on it. He just had a 30K annual. Had to replace an exhaust for 15K etc. He flight plans 190 kts at 10-12 k ft and 38 gal/hr.



Drop off the airplane at the local jet center, tell them to fix everything, and that's what you'll pay.

I can tell you that the 421C (similar cost airframe) that I manage has bills no where near what he has been paying. Our customers 414 also sees bills significantly less than that!

Jason


Those numbers are accurate in my experience. The 12 year exhaust AD requires full replacement on GTSIOs. I think I paid $12K approx. The windshield is $25-30K.
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