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Post subject: Re: Single engine tactical fighter oceanic crossings  Posted: 10 Nov 2015, 22:00 |
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Username Protected wrote: Even if they had someone dead reckoned to near Hawaii, the primary radars might have not been able to pick them up due to their stealth design.
Mike C. Gear down handle would fix that
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Post subject: Re: Single engine tactical fighter oceanic crossings Posted: 22 Dec 2015, 22:36 |
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Username Protected wrote: For some odd reason, pilots' air-air refueling ability improved dramatically after one of these trips  Doug Did anybody ever end up in the drink?
VMFA(AW)-224 almost put 6 into the water around Lajes back in the early 2000s.
If it hadn't been for a quick thinking KC-10 (I believe - could have been a KC-135) pilot who basically took it upon himself to *emergency refuel* and get back up right before the second cell showed up overhead - they all would have run out of fuel! 
For those asking about dead spaces - - Legacy Hornets had about a 10-15 dead space between CA and HI where we couldn't make it either way if something happened at that particular moment.
I did more total refuelings crossing the Atlantic (Spain to Maine) - seems like it was 13+ - than I did crossing the Pacific, but I don't remember there ever being that spot on the TransLant where you couldn't make a divert base. I don't ever remember being breifed on anything resembling these DuckButts -- maybe they weren't around during my time.
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Post subject: Re: Single engine tactical fighter oceanic crossings Posted: 24 Dec 2015, 09:25 |
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[quote="Brian Walsh"]I have flown the Atlantic 3 times in the single-engine F-16. There are 4-6 jets plus a tanker. Rescue is a LONG way away, so we keep track of ships on radar. My last crossing was over 42 degree water with waves in the 30-40' range. Unsurvivable IMHO. I carried a marine VHF GPS rescue beacon and SPOT. My plan was to try to eject near a ship and contact on CH 16. Glad it didn't happen. Here's the story of my first crossing, let me know what you think:
Hi Brian
Great story
Where can I find TBC
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Post subject: Re: Single engine tactical fighter oceanic crossings Posted: 24 Dec 2015, 10:58 |
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Username Protected wrote:
Hi Brian
Great story
Where can I find TBC
Yes, was wondering the same thing.
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Post subject: Re: Single engine tactical fighter oceanic crossings Posted: 28 Dec 2015, 03:36 |
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Username Protected wrote:
Hi Brian
Great story
Where can I find TBC
Yes, was wondering the same thing.
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Post subject: Re: Single engine tactical fighter oceanic crossings Posted: 28 Dec 2015, 09:26 |
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Username Protected wrote: I have flown the Atlantic 3 times in the single-engine F-16. There are 4-6 jets plus a tanker. Rescue is a LONG way away, so we keep track of ships on radar. My last crossing was over 42 degree water with waves in the 30-40' range. Unsurvivable IMHO. I carried a marine VHF GPS rescue beacon and SPOT. My plan was to try to eject near a ship and contact on CH 16. Glad it didn't happen. Here's the story of my first crossing, let me know what you think: http://viperflighttraining.com/my-first-pond-crossing/Great write up!
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