BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Jun 2015, 18:54

Username Protected wrote:

As I understand it, you just need to be on an approved maintenance program. The factory program is one, but you could (in theory) create your own and have your OpsSpecs reference that.

For anything smaller than CapeAir, I suspect it's cheaper to just bend over to the existing approved program.

I was just about to say the same thing... A certificate holder must have an approved maintenance program, you can write your own and shepherd it through the process, by which time you'll wish you had bought the belts ;-)

BTW- you could probably put the AMSafe airbag belts in for a similar cost. But they have recurring mx too (inflators and sensor system)

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Jun 2015, 19:40

Username Protected wrote:

To my knowledge there is no other way to do it? You have to comply with maintenance manual.

No, you have to do what your FSDO tells you to. That's usually comply with main manual. Are you sure your FSDO will even play ball - last I heard there was a moratorium on new 135 certs.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 23 Jun 2015, 22:39

Username Protected wrote:

To my knowledge there is no other way to do it? You have to comply with maintenance manual.

No, you have to do what your FSDO tells you to. That's usually comply with main manual. Are you sure your FSDO will even play ball - last I heard there was a moratorium on new 135 certs.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Jun 2015, 22:01

Most STC
do not apply to the newer 182's

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Jun 2015, 22:49

Username Protected wrote:

Most STC
do not apply to the newer 182's

The AMSafe one do. Price isn't all that great, but if you are going to spend 4 grand might as well be for a useful product.

http://www.amsafe.com/products-services/general-aviation/retrofit-available-for-older-aircraft/cessna/

Username Protected · **Posted:** 25 Jun 2015, 01:33

Airbags are not a bad idea. Got them in the bonanza

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Jun 2015, 02:33

There are usury laws on the books. I think it's time to get together and sue the manufactures for usury.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Jun 2015, 07:49

Username Protected wrote:

There are usury laws on the books. I think it's time to get together and sue the manufactures for usury.

Too many lawsuits in this country is part of the reason those seat belts are 4000 dollars in the first place. Far too litigious society.

If you want to put the 182 on a 135 certificate, be prepared to pay the price. This first shock should be a sign to stop and reflect about what you are about to embark on.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Jun 2015, 20:36

How about you just buy new?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Jun 2015, 22:00

Username Protected wrote:

Here is the OEM Supplier

http://www.pacscimiami.com/productsLogin.html

Oh no, the dreaded Meggitt. Geez

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Jun 2015, 20:23

Took a pause on the whole 135 deal. Cost has just ballooned. Would make more sense to buy an already 135 twin. Just add a zero or two to the costs. :cross:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 29 Jun 2015, 20:27

Meggitt used to be a forerunner in glass panel tech. Now they are lackey for Cessna. I doubt they will sell direct customer.

Guy,

How did you find out they were the OEM?

Cessna seatbelt prices out of control