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Post subject: Re: Gyro copter/plane Posted: 23 Dec 2014, 13:14 |
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Joined: 08/11/08 Posts: 1437 Post Likes: +311 Location: KAAF Apalachicola, Fl
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^^ And with that I bow out of the gyroplane discussion...  An expert arrives. Still, for the same mission and open cockpit etc...think about a trike. Way cool. Jim
_________________ Jim Harper Montgomery, AL and Apalachicola, FL
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Post subject: Re: Gyro copter/plane Posted: 23 Dec 2014, 15:41 |
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Joined: 01/28/14 Posts: 752 Post Likes: +462 Company: CCDE, Inc Location: Houston - KDWH
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In my case, I was doing touch & go landings. I let the rotor speed decay and accelerated the airframe faster than the rotors could catch up. It got airborne but I was putting in way to much control effort to keep it over the center line, and knew it, so I held it down low, maybe 20 feet AGL.
The rotor banged back and forth on the teeter stops, then one blade rebounded to an unloaded condition, producing a radically asymmetric lift. The machine yawed hard left and rolled left, the rotor hit the ground a few times and then catapulted me near vertical. I saw the windshield full of grass in the instant before impact.
I had two coherent thoughts during this : 1. This doesn't feel right 2. I'm going to hit that grass
After impact, 3: I better unlatch this seat belt
There were 11 rotor strike marks on the ground - at roughly 300 RRPM, it took about three seconds from first loss of control to impact.
I now consider that crash to be a truly lucky event for me - I bought my C150 before the cuts and bruises healed, probably saving me from a gruesome death by gyro later on.
_________________ CHUCK N60988 C150
I'm retired now - don't need a fast airplane anymore.
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Post subject: Re: Gyro copter/plane Posted: 23 Dec 2014, 17:05 |
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Joined: 12/01/12 Posts: 507 Post Likes: +408 Company: Minnesota Flight
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But you probably had the most fun flying the gyro than anything else, before the crash of course. " if you're not scared, then you're not having fun and you're doing it wrong"
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Post subject: Re: Gyro copter/plane Posted: 23 Dec 2014, 23:02 |
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Joined: 11/10/13 Posts: 882 Post Likes: +517 Location: Kcir
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Username Protected wrote: Mark, I'm working on my helo CFI now. Come down to Tune for an intro flight and free cheeseburger and you can be my first student next spring  Jeff Thats to good of a deal to pass up...the cheeseburger I mean. 
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Post subject: Re: Gyro copter/plane Posted: 23 Dec 2014, 23:04 |
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Joined: 11/10/13 Posts: 882 Post Likes: +517 Location: Kcir
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Username Protected wrote: For the same mission, consider a Trike (for instance: http://www.evolutiontrikes.com/). A lot of bang for the buck, (altho the example I gave is one of the most expensive...there are lots more cheap) and IMO much, much safer. There are a couple of flight modes where a Gyro WILL kill you. Period. And the newer designs make it tougher to get there...but not impossible. A Trike is way more benign. It'll just barely kill you. Jim Well he'll, I can live with "barely kill(ed)" I will check them out. Thanks.
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Post subject: Re: Gyro copter/plane Posted: 23 Dec 2014, 23:19 |
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Username Protected wrote: ^^ And with that I bow out of the gyroplane discussion...  An expert arrives. Still, for the same mission and open cockpit etc...think about a trike. Way cool. Jim Agreed. I flew one in Hawaii, and I loved it. It was probably some of the most fun flying I've ever done. If you're a motorcyclist, you want a trike because they are a weight-shift vehicle - almost exactly like a motorcycle for the air.
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Post subject: Re: Gyro copter/plane Posted: 25 Dec 2014, 11:35 |
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Joined: 11/10/13 Posts: 882 Post Likes: +517 Location: Kcir
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Never really thought about a trike. Just started reading about them and that might be the answer for me. Could keep it at home and use it like a motorcycle. Rides in the evenings and weekends in the warmer months along the river, farms and Shawnee forest. I could keep a helo at home but a lot more investment in time and money. Just going to be me and wife playing around. Trike would seem more intuitive and safer than gyro. So, like Robert Duval said in the movie Family Thing/Affair: "happiness ain't nothin more than something to look forward to." Now, as my wife says, I have something new to obsess, er, look forward to. 
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Post subject: Re: Gyro copter/plane Posted: 25 Dec 2014, 12:54 |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FlightstarI owned a Pioneer Flightstar Ultralight for several years. Most fun I've ever had flying. One of the first aircraft with the ballistically fired Parachute. Following the terrain at low level and low speed is what flying is supposed to feel like. I used to pack a fishing rod and land next to obscure farm ponds and catch largemouth. I also used to drive the park rangers crazy landing on the boat ramp. Oh, those were the days.
_________________ Life is for living. Backcountry videos: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSChxm ... fOnWwngH1w
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