BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Feb 2017, 01:22

Username Protected wrote:

The Citation is back in action.

Can you detail the failure that was discovered?

Mike C.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Feb 2017, 08:43

I'd like to hear more detail as well of what they found when they got in there. Sounded pretty hairy.

Mr. Hangen, you sir are living the dream.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Feb 2017, 11:10

Mark, get her good and liquor'd up... to calm her nerves.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Feb 2017, 11:20

Username Protected wrote:

Mr. Hangen, you sir are living the dream.

Jason C is my hero. :thumbup:

Funny vignette sitting with my very lucid 86 year old father and 80 year old mother. They watch all my YouTube videos. Mom says "wow, that young lady who had the melt down looked quite young and beautiful". I said, ya it seems that the younger gals think the old guy has it going on!"! Dad says...." J E T...don't kid yourself". Haha. Love ya Dad :bud:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Feb 2017, 11:58

Username Protected wrote:

The Citation is back in action.

Can you detail the failure that was discovered?

Mike C.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Feb 2017, 12:16

Username Protected wrote:

I will have a couple shenanigans trips later in the month. One involving "non pilot " again. She says she is ready to try again. :woot:

Here we are at the inaugural ball and here she is on the cover of the Bad Girls reality show

Some serious thread drift going on here, Mark.... but who cares! Now if I could just afford a JET..... :lol:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Feb 2017, 13:29

Username Protected wrote:

I posted earlier that is was a failed slip clutch.

How does a failed slip clutch cause the excessive nose down trim, or cause the electric trim to not be able to trim up?

Mike C.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Feb 2017, 14:38

Username Protected wrote:

I posted earlier that is was a failed slip clutch.

How does a failed slip clutch cause the excessive nose down trim, or cause the electric trim to not be able to trim up?

Mike C.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Feb 2017, 15:07

Username Protected wrote:

I posted earlier that is was a failed slip clutch.

How does a failed slip clutch cause the excessive nose down trim, or cause the electric trim to not be able to trim up?

Mike C.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Feb 2017, 15:27

Username Protected wrote:

Mr. Hangen, you sir are living the dream.

Dad says...." J E T...don't kid yourself". Haha. Love ya Dad :bud:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Feb 2017, 16:27

Nice pics! Much deeper inside, I'm not so superficial

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Feb 2017, 16:35

Mark,

Advice(unsolicited);

Don't wake up from this dream!

FYI:
Jason has a Pilatus full of babes, you have a smallish V.

:rofl:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Feb 2017, 17:18

Username Protected wrote:

How does a failed slip clutch cause the excessive nose down trim, or cause the electric trim to not be able to trim up?

Mike C.

Ok either I am not being clear or you aren't comprehending. The trim INDICATED it was at its nose down trim limit. I could not manually trim it down further. The AP had a trim down annunicator lit meaning I needed to trim down. But I couldn't. When I released the AP I had to push down to keep it level. So it was giving a false full trim down indication. Sounds like the slip clutch wasn't releasing and hence acting like it was full nose down.

Clearer?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 06 Feb 2017, 19:17

Talked with the mechanic that dealt with the trim issue. Both the electric clutch and the slip clutch were bad. The electric clutch was not releasing. The travel in degrees is supposed to be 15 degrees nose down and 17 degrees nose up. It was actually measures as 5 deg nose down and 25 degree nose up. Hence the takeoff trim range on the trim wheel was not even close to indicating correctly. The slip clutch was supposed to slip at 40 inch lbs but wasn't slipping when the mechanic used his entire body weight.

They replaced both clutches.

The clutches are in the box labeled #10 in this photo.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 06 Feb 2017, 19:28

Man, that sucks out loud. Good job getting that thing on the ground.

Flying the Citation II