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 Post subject: Re: What's so special about the Phenom 300?
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I do know rich people that are very frugal, but I know a lot of very wealthy people that are lavish. In fact, most people are frugal about some things, and spend lavishly on others.


Why do you think Uber is wasting money? It depends on the circumstances, I may or may not rent a car depending on what my total Uber cost might be. If I'm going to an event where I may consume alcohol, I Uber. The cost of an Uber is miniscule compared to the cost of making bad decisions.

I learned a long time ago that poor people are often poor because they make poor decisions, an example would be can't afford an Uber? Can you afford an attorney?

If you didn't mean Uber in general and just meant the premium for Uber black, then you still didn't read what I said, because I was simply making the point that it is two very different experiences.

In life you generally get what you pay for.

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 Post subject: Re: What's so special about the Phenom 300?
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Love your posts, Mike, and I'd in the same camp you're in if I had the mission for a jet. ButI think a LOT of us use Urber black, feeling the extra cost is well worth it for a more experienced dtiver and a better car.


Uber Black also carries commercial insurance and their drivers are licensed livery drivers.

For these and other reasons even Uber recommends corporate clients not use standard Uber.

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You want to be "generous"? Take a lower cost Uber and donate the difference to charity.

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You are kidding right?

If not that is one of the dumbest things you have said.

I would say more, but the left hand shouldn't know what the right hand is doing.

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 Post subject: Re: What's so special about the Phenom 300?
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Sorry Chip but I’ve never met a truly wealthy (assets, not income which can go away) person that displays callous attitude toward money. See below. Spending 103 extra dollars for a 20 minute ride in a used Escalade ever a used Prius is stupid.
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Come on Mark, you literally can’t be stupid enough to believe I’d fall for that??

Here’s a trip from my office to the Nashville airport.

Uber Black is $25 more.


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Come on Mark, you literally can’t be stupid enough to believe I’d fall for that??

Here’s a trip from my office to the Nashville airport.

Uber Black is $25 more.

You are in different markets. My data points from Uber around here are closer to what Mark sees - a LOT more for the same service.

Uber is different in different places. And at different times sometimes, too.

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Come on Mark, you literally can’t be stupid enough to believe I’d fall for that??

Here’s a trip from my office to the Nashville airport.

Uber Black is $25 more.

You are in different markets. My data points from Uber around here are closer to what Mark sees - a LOT more for the same service.

Uber is different in different places. And at different times sometimes, too.

I travel all over the country on a almost weekly basis. The example I gave is the norm, not the exception.
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The fact that we are even arguing over Uber rates is amazing.

You guys realize you are spending six figures flying turbine aircraft and then arguing about car rates right?

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I am with Chip on this. On trips it is generally uber black or private car. The price is honestly who cares money.

At some point you have to look past where you came from vs. where you are. Does me no good collecting all these dollars to have when I do pass on and not use them. At least that was a bigger deal for me in saving or rather not spending money.


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I travel a lot and use uber constantly. I am in in the Mark and Jon camp - black usually is double at a minimum, AND, any time I have used it, the quality of car has been terrible, it’s rarely true ‘black car’ service.

I have started using taxis and car services more in the last year with great results. ChatGPT has found me local black car services in a few out of way places that have been awesome.

The only uber-esque rides I like at this point are the Waymo ones! No driver and the cars are great. Only a few markets though.

I think the cost thing on Uber is not the issue, it’s that you literally get no extra value in many cases.

Maybe that’s also why I still don’t have a p300. I am not convinced I get that much more value overall flow a huge increase in price ;)


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I think it’s probably more perception than reality for all of us, I’m sure there are times when I booked an Uber and Black was twice as much and I didn’t even consider it. I don’t remember it because it was dismissed so quickly.

The overall quality of Uber is weak, so when it makes sense, I’ll pay more to make it a little better.

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The example you just gave me Chip was literally 3 dollars per MINUTE to ride in an old Escalade vs an old Toyota to get where you are going.

As to “collecting money” I know you can’t take it with you but you can benefit generations beyond you (within reason).

To me using Uber black is like lighting a cigar with a twenty dollar bill. Would you be comfortable doing that chip?

Now let’s talk about the P300 please. My belief is that it’s no where close worth it’s value on the market performance and comfort wise.


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The fact that we are even arguing over Uber rates is amazing.

You guys realize you are spending six figures flying turbine aircraft and then arguing about car rates right?



Dimes and Quarters make dollars and thousands. I was raised on that mentality, maybe that’s why I’ve been fairly successful in a business known to bankrupt people. Borrowing too much or wasting money eventually will ruin you. Guaranteed.


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Good job on the quoting Mark!

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To me using Uber black is like lighting a cigar with a twenty dollar bill. Would you be comfortable doing that chip?


You must not be married or have kids / grandkids.

I wish I was worried about Uber rates!

Help me figure out how to reign in these money hungry children!

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