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Their plans are moving forward:

"Cirrus launched the first test aircraft in March, followed by a second in November. The first SF50 is being used to test performance and handling, including upcoming tests of in-flight deployment of the Cirrus Airframe Parachute System (CAPS), installed on all Cirrus aircraft and credited by Cirrus with saving 103 lives to date. The second aircraft will primarily be flown to validate the flight into known icing (FIKI) capability of the SF50, leaving the third aircraft to test reliability and optional equipment installations. The three aircraft have combined so far to log 250 hours, the company noted."

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Their plans are moving forward:

"Cirrus launched the first test aircraft in March, followed by a second in November. The first SF50 is being used to test performance and handling, including upcoming tests of in-flight deployment of the Cirrus Airframe Parachute System (CAPS), installed on all Cirrus aircraft and credited by Cirrus with saving 103 lives to date. The second aircraft will primarily be flown to validate the flight into known icing (FIKI) capability of the SF50, leaving the third aircraft to test reliability and optional equipment installations. The three aircraft have combined so far to log 250 hours, the company noted."


2015 will perhaps be the most important year in the history of Cirrus Aircraft as they have asserted for the last several years that the SF50 will be certified and that the first deliveries will occur before the end of the year. The certification date is not up to them as the FAA makes that ultimate decision but they seem to be on track with their testing plans. We will know how it worked out this time next year!


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Here's what J. Mac McClellan thinks of the Cirrus SF50:

http://macsblog.com/


Here is the full link to the article (Mac will post a new article on the home page in a bit):
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No disparagement intended. If you hang around BT a while you will find I am rather sarcastic and like to argue the opposite side of almost any position just to keep it fun. :D

As I see it, there are the following debates running in this thread that have been cross posted and intertwined between this thread and others.
-- The chute as a safety device encourages pilots to take the plane where it was not designed to fly.
-- The cute as a safety device is a failure because pilots who crash used the chute as a crutch and then failed in the ADM because they did not use the chute.
-- FAA requirements above 25K mandate multiple sources for many critical components. As such, the historical answer has always been two or more engines.
-- Jet engines are currently designed for high altitudes.
-- Pratt has a specific item on the TDC which precludes single engine certification, there is an assumption Pratt has this because of liability
-- Williams is going to sell fewer engines, therefore needs to spread the cost over fewer units which will increase the costs beyond what two small engines would have cost.

Did I miss anything before I counter them?

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Mike C.

No disparagement intended. If you hang around BT a while you will find I am rather sarcastic and like to argue the opposite side of almost any position just to keep it fun. :D

As I see it, there are the following debates running in this thread that have been cross posted and intertwined between this thread and others.
-- The chute as a safety device encourages pilots to take the plane where it was not designed to fly.
-- The cute as a safety device is a failure because pilots who crash used the chute as a crutch and then failed in the ADM because they did not use the chute.
-- FAA requirements above 25K mandate multiple sources for many critical components. As such, the historical answer has always been two or more engines.
-- Jet engines are currently designed for high altitudes.
-- Pratt has a specific item on the TDC which precludes single engine certification, there is an assumption Pratt has this because of liability
-- Williams is going to sell fewer engines, therefore needs to spread the cost over fewer units which will increase the costs beyond what two small engines would have cost.

Did I miss anything before I counter them?

Tim

Yes.

-- Sales of this jet will go like gangbusters!

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Tim - WHAT are you doing?!? It had almost died! Abort! Abort!

(I started to put that in green and then decided not to. :D


Yeah, but you missed a closing bracket ')' :beechslap:

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Mike C.

No disparagement intended. If you hang around BT a while you will find I am rather sarcastic and like to argue the opposite side of almost any position just to keep it fun. :D

As I see it, there are the following debates running in this thread that have been cross posted and intertwined between this thread and others.
-- The chute as a safety device encourages pilots to take the plane where it was not designed to fly.
-- The cute as a safety device is a failure because pilots who crash used the chute as a crutch and then failed in the ADM because they did not use the chute.
-- FAA requirements above 25K mandate multiple sources for many critical components. As such, the historical answer has always been two or more engines.
-- Jet engines are currently designed for high altitudes.
-- Pratt has a specific item on the TDC which precludes single engine certification, there is an assumption Pratt has this because of liability
-- Williams is going to sell fewer engines, therefore needs to spread the cost over fewer units which will increase the costs beyond what two small engines would have cost.

Did I miss anything before I counter them?

Tim


OMG Tim! Have you gone delusional? This thing was dead, gone, bonkers for so very long!

Hmmm......might make triple digits yet :stir:

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