BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 13 Mar 2014, 19:52

Thats funny that you posted that one, we were just cropping that down this morning. Thats the production hanger in Tarbes completely cleared out for the new toy. That is a killer paint scheme, our sales guy is going to order some like that. They could turn that stage into a dance club with all the lighting. :dancing:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Mar 2014, 08:38

Username Protected wrote:

Say you had a few million. This vs an Eclipse. What would you choose? I know the eclipse is less. Impressive airplane. Pilatus still wins in the utility category.

Eclipse does't come close and in my estimation won't be contender for much longer. Read ted's thread on Eclipse from about 10 days ago.

I was lusting after a 700 c model about 6 months ago....i almost had myself convinced that i could afford it.....then I woke up disturbed by how real the dream had seemed.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Mar 2014, 09:11

Outstanding performance...Well done

Takeoff distance over 50-ft obstacle | 2,380 ft
Max cruise speed/fuel burn/range w/45-min reserve, 28,000 ft 330 KTAS, 64 gph, 1,410 nm
Long range cruise speed/fuel burn, range w/45-min reserve, 31,000 ft
290 KTAS, 35 gph, 1,585 nm
250 KTAS, 30 gph, 1,730 nm
Max operating altitude | 31,000 ft
Landing distance over 50-ft obstacle | 2,430 ft
Landing distance, ground roll, no reverse thrust | 1,840 ft

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Mar 2014, 10:43

I think I could live with going only 290kts all day

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Mar 2014, 10:46

Username Protected wrote:

Here's an interesting comparison of depreciation of TBM850 to Mustangs from Vref. Clearly the market favors TBM850 over the Mustangs. I don't have data on the PC12 but my guess is the data is even better:

And there is my point. The first guy takes a 15% whack in a year. The next guy can own for 5 years and only lose a few percent vs. new. This is almost universal unless the supply is limited. Nothing new here....

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Mar 2014, 11:09

Username Protected wrote:

Here's a good video:

[youtube]http://youtu.be/5szCrivvEKc[/youtube]

The only thing wrong with that video is that it wasn't long enough. And it wasn't me in it.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Mar 2014, 11:19

That video shows a decent shot of the intake plenum and its redesign. It will be soooo much easier to access the first stage!

:woot:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Mar 2014, 13:36

These long range cruise fuel flow numbers are wrong.
Here are the cruise charts from the POH.

Username Protected wrote:

Outstanding performance...Well done

Takeoff distance over 50-ft obstacle | 2,380 ft
Max cruise speed/fuel burn/range w/45-min reserve, 28,000 ft 330 KTAS, 64 gph, 1,410 nm
Long range cruise speed/fuel burn, range w/45-min reserve, 31,000 ft
290 KTAS, 35 gph, 1,585 nm
250 KTAS, 30 gph, 1,730 nm
Max operating altitude | 31,000 ft
Landing distance over 50-ft obstacle | 2,430 ft
Landing distance, ground roll, no reverse thrust | 1,840 ft

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Mar 2014, 13:44

Wow, 9 pages without a twin vs single debate :clap:

.

That was quite a wing drop in that stall demo (or perhaps it was just a weird camera angle)!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Mar 2014, 13:58

Username Protected wrote:

That was quite a wing drop in that stall demo (or perhaps it was just a weird camera angle)!

That didn't look like a stall demo. AOA was basically 0. The aileron went up quickly, so it looked like he was just demoing the rate of roll into a turn.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Mar 2014, 14:02

+1, I agree.

Username Protected wrote:

That was quite a wing drop in that stall demo (or perhaps it was just a weird camera angle)!

That didn't look like a stall demo. AOA was basically 0. The aileron went up quickly, so it looked like he was just demoing the rate of roll into a turn.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Mar 2014, 14:14

Ya, it was just a roll to excite the mooney pilot. The "mytbmdocs" on the iPad has the POH posted since tuesday if anybody is interested in seeing it for themselves.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Mar 2014, 15:16

Username Protected wrote:

Outstanding performance...Well done

Takeoff distance over 50-ft obstacle | 2,380 ft
Max cruise speed/fuel burn/range w/45-min reserve, 28,000 ft 330 KTAS, 64 gph, 1,410 nm
Long range cruise speed/fuel burn, range w/45-min reserve, 31,000 ft
290 KTAS, 35 gph, 1,585 nm
250 KTAS, 30 gph, 1,730 nm
Max operating altitude | 31,000 ft
Landing distance over 50-ft obstacle | 2,430 ft
Landing distance, ground roll, no reverse thrust | 1,840 ft

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Mar 2014, 15:43

Glad to see they were wearing noise canceling Bose headsets.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 14 Mar 2014, 15:46

Are the 900s RVSM capable ?

TBM 900