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Post subject: Re: Cirrus Vision G2+ announced today  Posted: 30 Aug 2021, 02:44 |
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Username Protected wrote: The TIT was artificially lower than a typical FJ44 at 760. The FADEC FJ44 are all in the mid to upper 800s. Williams may have wanted to be conservative on the first use of the FJ44 in a single. Quote: Williams can't have seen many engines due for HSI, just not many SF 50 at 2000 hours, perhaps zero of them, so how would they know how they are holding up if you can't see the insides? I would think FADEC records lots of engine parameters that Williams would download at every service interval.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus Vision G2+ announced today Posted: 30 Aug 2021, 08:56 |
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If they are like Pratt and Whitney, you have to upload your engine data every month to their portal and that's how they get their data.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus Vision G2+ announced today Posted: 30 Aug 2021, 11:13 |
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Username Protected wrote: Lack of catastrophic failures indicates almost nothing about engine longevity.
Ask Mustang owners about burner can issues on the PW615F. Negligible catastrophic failures but very short operational life early on.
Mike C. Fair point ... but aren't all these engines on the Williams program anyway?
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus Vision G2+ announced today Posted: 30 Aug 2021, 13:47 |
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Username Protected wrote:
Fair point ... but aren't all these engines on the Williams program anyway?
Optional, but given how the Williams eco-system works, crazy not to.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus Vision G2+ announced today Posted: 30 Aug 2021, 19:27 |
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Username Protected wrote: Fair point ... but aren't all these engines on the Williams program anyway? Optional, but given how the Williams eco-system works, crazy not to.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus Vision G2+ announced today Posted: 30 Aug 2021, 20:24 |
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Username Protected wrote: The Cirrus rep said the Williams program wasn't available stand-alone, only through the whole-plane package from Cirrus, which cost $400 a month and covers everything -- databases, annuals, AOG, engine overhauls, etc. I think that is $400/hour. There is no way $4800/year covers everything. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Cirrus Vision G2+ announced today Posted: 30 Aug 2021, 22:43 |
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Username Protected wrote: I think that is $400/hour. Good catch, fixed.
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