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 Post subject: Re: FS: 2008 Pilatus PC12NG
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Congrats on moving up! I vote for the Phenom. chicks dig it the most. :thumbup:

The Universe has spoken regarding a new PC12. Maybe that'll steer me to the Phenom.


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My guess is you would regret the Phenom in the first 6 months you owned it. Too many places you cant go, altitudes you cant realistically fly at (think VFR), and the cost of operation will begin to wear on you.

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Keep your single. Get typed. Lease the jet. Do some select contract flying to stay current on someone else’s dime.

Works great.

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If you take a 2019 off their hands, can they help you with a jet partnership? Maybe someone nearby on the fence about getting a PC24....

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My guess is you would regret the Phenom in the first 6 months you owned it. Too many places you cant go, altitudes you cant realistically fly at (think VFR), and the cost of operation will begin to wear on you.

Yeah. Sometimes I feel it's the equivalent of buying an 18 wheeler to do a home improvement project. I fly a lot but I feel a 300's purpose is to fly a lot more than I fly.


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Keep your single. Get typed. Lease the jet. Do some select contract flying to stay current on someone else’s dime.

Works great.

Not a bad call. Perhaps I'll work in that direction.


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In the immortal words of Jason Crandall: "They are all clown planes." :lol:

I just wish I could afford your hand-me-downs. :D :thumbup:

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If you take a 2019 off their hands, can they help you with a jet partnership? Maybe someone nearby on the fence about getting a PC24....

Like I said... the PC12NG is ripe for upgrading. It's been practically the same since 2008. A salesman I recently spoke to this time last year felt the 2018 model would be a big upgrade.... he was surprised it wasn't. I'm afraid to buy the last year of the old model and 3 months later they announce the new model.


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In the immortal words of Jason Crandall: "They are all clown planes." :lol:

I just wish I could afford your hand-me-downs. :D :thumbup:

Cheers Jeff. :D


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J-- I hate to say it but flying is boring and your experiencing what the Airline experiences daily. I would suspect you'd get a new plane then be in the same boat a few years later.. Planes are nothing more than time savers.. The act of flying is cool but 3 hours at altitude sucks !!
Your Pc12 is bad ass... It works.. it does it all.. It gets you to the islands.. I wish I had it and the time to use it.... Grass is not greener on other side bro... Of corse if your looking to burn some cash the equation changes....It becomes a " because I can "

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...and I thought that he was buying a KingAir because having two engines was much safer than having one!
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...or maybe he was looking for a PC12NG with CAPS
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Of corse if your looking to burn some cash the equation changes....It becomes a " because I can "

I agree and it's an expensive experiment to have to back pedal on.

For now, the Universe made the decision for me. Now I'm getting quotes for HSI, wing pull etc. on my plane since I won't be trading it in.


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@Jason - I am currently training at Lanier PDK (just shy of 50 hours) and would love the opportunity to fill the right seat if you have a short round trip sometime.

My wife promised if we would have won the lottery she would buy me a Pilatus, so drooling over those sitting in Epps is about as close as I'm gonna get for a while ;-)

And, no I am not a troll - just lurk alot so my post count is low. I have references if you need them :peace: :peace:


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3 hours at altitude sucks !!


No it isn’t, look out the window of the everchanging glory around you!

And be happy you’re not putting caps on pop bottles for a living.

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I see zero reason to replace a pc12 with a pc12. 5 knots from a prop change on a new one doesn’t change anything.

Get a jet and enjoy the flights west. Colorado is a more fun place than atl to spend time.

I predict you get a jet and end up flying more because speed is awesome.


The cj3 cabin is small. The Phenom cabin is a lot better. If you could afford that, why on earth would you not get that? Seems like a real upgrade.

If you are spending this much on a plane, who cares if it burns more gas on a short hop? It will be faster than your pc12 at 17.5.


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