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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II  Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 18:19 |
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Awesome video Mark. Was the camera mounted on your helmet
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 20:02 |
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Awesome place!! just got home today just short of 4K miles in two weeks. Stayed in Spearfish, rode out of SF Bay Area with 90 bikes. Great people, and a Great country. Definitely going back.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 13 Aug 2016, 22:35 |
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Username Protected wrote: Awesome video Mark. Was the camera mounted on your helmet [youtube]https://youtu.be/LvZ80eUxegI[/youtube] Oh ya...I took the Citation...hence the thread remains relevant. 
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 15 Aug 2016, 07:09 |
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Username Protected wrote: Oh ya...I took the Citation...hence the thread remains relevant. Can't drift when you're on the ground!
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 26 Sep 2016, 16:30 |
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Looking down on the proletariat from FL370 never gets old![youtube]https://youtu.be/tTkBSw0BfsU[/youtube]
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 27 Sep 2016, 10:22 |
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Username Protected wrote: Mark - what is that oscillating noise? It sounds like the igniters but they seem a bit loud or were they just amplified through the IC? Ignitors...some are louder than others. Don't know why. 
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 27 Sep 2016, 13:05 |
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Why do you need them on for takeoff and landing? Username Protected wrote: Mark - what is that oscillating noise? It sounds like the igniters but they seem a bit loud or were they just amplified through the IC? Ignitors...some are louder than others. Don't know why.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 27 Sep 2016, 13:23 |
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Username Protected wrote: Why do you need them on for takeoff and landing?
Cuz it says so on the checklist!  I suspect it is a redundancy thing. Always making sure you have ignition during vurnerable phases of flight. Pretty sure the AC90 has the same requirement.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 27 Sep 2016, 13:40 |
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curious why you kept your hands on the throttles the whole time. thought you jet guys removed right hand at VR.  not being critical. just wondering...
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 27 Sep 2016, 14:05 |
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Username Protected wrote: curious why you kept your hands on the throttles the whole time. thought you jet guys removed right hand at VR. not being critical. just wondering... Great catch. Total error on my part. Question is why? Best I can figure is was a fairly challenging takeoff. 3400 feet with a 45 deg 30 knot wind. Narrow runway. I was super focused and I suspect 5000 hours of twin flying where moving your hand off the throttle at V1 WASN'T SOP took over. One reason for moving your hand is to make sure you don't try to stop post V1. Honestly had there been an issue I may have made the wrong choice purely from muscle memory Really glad that you pointed that out. Something to think about next time.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Citation II Posted: 28 Sep 2016, 13:04 |
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Username Protected wrote:
Really glad that you pointed that out. Something to think about next time.
mark (no pun intended) of a good pilot........feedback, improvement......kudos to Hangen
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