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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi MU-2  Posted: 06 Jul 2016, 22:24 |
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Username Protected wrote: Everything I was told from within the MU2 community turned out to be true. Per NM, I think it is very close in ops costs to my C421. Great to hear that, Tom. Care to share any numbers?
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi MU-2 Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 09:35 |
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Username Protected wrote: Everything I was told from within the MU2 community turned out to be true. Per NM, I think it is very close in ops costs to my C421. Great to hear that, Tom. Care to share any numbers?
I honestly don't track expenses. It takes the fun out of things. 
My rough figures for the C421 were $750/hr. and for the MU2, $1100/hr., but I am going 295-300 kts.
My last service center annual 100/200 hr. was ~14K and that included an OH starter/generator, gear motor and a rudder bearing. 3 days down time. The year before that was ~$13K and included the other side starter/generator and new batteries. Next year, I have props, so it will be higher.
I have needed virtually no mx in between my annual visits beyond flat tires, avionics upgrades and chasing an autopilot issue.
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi MU-2 Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 09:56 |
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Username Protected wrote: I have needed virtually no mx in between my annual visits beyond flat tires, avionics upgrades and chasing an autopilot issue. That's the true value of a TP right there. I would venture there are very few pressurized twin piston guys (who actually fly their birds) who could ever make that claim.
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi MU-2 Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 13:51 |
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Username Protected wrote: It should be noted, there is significant value in being able to hear the sweet whine of a turbine spooling up every time you start the engines. That is worth at least a few hundred per hour IMO :-) Isn't that the truth! For the past few years my oldest son, now 8, would always comment when hearing a TP or jet starting up that it was the most beautiful sound in the world! Someone trained that boy right....just sayin..
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi MU-2 Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 15:10 |
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Username Protected wrote: It should be noted, there is significant value in being able to hear the sweet whine of a turbine spooling up every time you start the engines. That is worth at least a few hundred per hour IMO :-) Isn't that the truth! For the past few years my oldest son, now 8, would always comment when hearing a TP or jet starting up that it was the most beautiful sound in the world! Someone trained that boy right....just sayin..
Agree 1000%.
The first 5 seconds right as start is initiated and the corresponding just as the shutdown is initiated are my favorite. (I may occasionally imitate those sounds while driving alone in my car)
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi MU-2 Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 18:39 |
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Pics or it didn't happen, right?
Keep in mind, this is a 100hr with a P2T2 swap (engine came off, part installed, engine reinstalled, only part under warranty), reinstall the Strikefinder with new harness, polished a window for crazing, installed a new Bose jack, SOAP sample included. The extra is fuel.
This is a certified service center, not Joe Mechanic. Do that in a Commander or a King Air.
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi MU-2 Posted: 07 Jul 2016, 19:48 |
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Username Protected wrote: Mine spits ice chips or a drop of water occasionally too. Talked to Turbine Air and they said "it's working!" No way around that issue. Mine used to do that. The issue is the fit of the mink sock on the separator. You can get yours fixed, too. It isn't supposed to do that. Next time you have it in the shop, have the mechanic check the separator and aspirator carefully. Now I can fly into humid Florida and it doesn't spit water. Mike C.
1st squak on the list to remedy when 425SA goes in for an AOA install.
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi MU-2 Posted: 10 Jul 2016, 14:34 |
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Username Protected wrote: I have no operational costs to share whatsoever, but I do have HSI estimates for my aircraft with -1 engines. Estimates are highlighted in yellow and are between $42K to 53K. This is very helpful, Adam. I knew you had some estimates on your hots. Thanks for sharing.
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi MU-2 Posted: 04 Aug 2016, 16:02 |
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Here is another data point.
just completed a 150hr inspection on my Commander.
It came in a little less than my average annual cost for my 421 and cheaper per hour than the MU-2 invoice posted for a 100hr inspection.
MU-2 cost $109 per hour
Commander $89 per hour
This is a 12 page invoice from Naples jet center addressing over 30 items.
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi MU-2 Posted: 04 Aug 2016, 16:05 |
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Username Protected wrote: Here is another data point.
just completed a 150hr inspection on my Commander.
It came in less than my average annual cost for my 421 and cheaper per hour than the MU-2 invoice posted for a 100hr inspection.
MU-2 cost $109 per hour
Commander $89 per hour
This is a 12 page invoice addressing over 30 items. Sweet.
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi MU-2 Posted: 04 Aug 2016, 17:48 |
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Username Protected wrote: Here is another data point.
just completed a 150hr inspection on my Commander.
It came in a little less than my average annual cost for my 421 and cheaper per hour than the MU-2 invoice posted for a 100hr inspection.
MU-2 cost $109 per hour
Commander $89 per hour
This is a 12 page invoice addressing over 30 items. Will post my mu2 100hr. 8k and I fixed a good number of things. Should have been 6k. Seems like all these Garett turbines are not bad unless something major goes kaput.
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Post subject: Re: Mitsubishi MU-2 Posted: 04 Aug 2016, 19:56 |
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Username Protected wrote: Here is another data point.
just completed a 150hr inspection on my Commander.
It came in a little less than my average annual cost for my 421 and cheaper per hour than the MU-2 invoice posted for a 100hr inspection.
MU-2 cost $109 per hour
Commander $89 per hour
This is a 12 page invoice addressing over 30 items. It's not that simple. How many hours per year do you fly? You would also have to dig into the inspection programs a little deeper than that. For instance, my last inspection was a 100/200HR/1/2YR Inspection. I have no idea what the Commander intervals are. It also makes a difference where it is serviced. The MU2 prices posted above are service centers. Less expensive labor can be had, if one desires. Basically, it appears that the yearly inspections are very similar between the two airframes, for the average owner operator. Steve, your airplane really is super nice! And you have made us well aware that it is the best airplane one could own. 
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