BeechTalk - BT - We're replacing the Bo with an SR22

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2013, 15:42

Username Protected wrote:

Hot business idea.....Almost every insurance company uses a marketing symbol.

Gieco has the gecko, Travelers has the umbrella, Alejandro could use the parachute! :rofl:

Try somethin' like....

"Are your aviation insurance rates headed sky high? Pull the chute and call 805-727-4222"!

I like it Rick!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2013, 16:08

So when are you throwing your first Tupperware Party.

Don't forget to "burp" it.

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Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2013, 18:15

Congrats on the Cirri Ali !

Not that there's anything wrong with that. :eek:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2013, 19:35

Congrats Ale. Sure seems like a lot of airplane for the money. I think you got a very good buy there...

Continuing on the conversation about cirrus and FIKI, I experienced light to moderate icing in a non-FIKI SR22 and can tell you I didn't like it one bit. To me the non FIKI systems are only good for trace and potentially light ice conditions. The FIKI system I'm told is night and day compared to non-FIKI (as it relates to the SR22).

As I compare options, excellent deice capabilities dominate my decision process and I find that FIKI SR22s don't appear on the market for any less than 400-450 AUs. The other big downside to the SR22 is a very anemic useful load if you'd like to take anybody on an overnight trip. Its just fine for one or two people... However, for the same 400-450 AUs you can get an A36 with FIKI TKS, TAT, tip tanks, huge useful load (in comparison to SR22), six seats and just about any goodies you want.

If FIKI isn't part of your criteria, an older SR22 is one heck of a buy...

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2013, 19:45

Congrats Ale, very nice plane...

Jay

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2013, 20:39

Username Protected wrote:

I know nothing about the 2003 sr22s, but a quick search lead me to find not one over 3000 hours. They must just self destruct at 2999.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2013, 21:11

Username Protected wrote:

Don - When I look at G36 useful load at 1033 it is less than the new Cirrus and in line with the pre-G5. The G36 has two more REAL seats but not the load to go with it.

Don said A36. Yeah, the G is a pig. My old V35B has more than the G36 - 1,270 UL. :shrug:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2013, 21:21

Aje...congrats on your purchase. Your next investment s/b in COPA as its owners group is akin to this BT group as there is an equivalent wealth of information, resources and friendships to draw upon.

I guess I can confess that almost a year ago, I replaced my Baron ....which was my 3rd one and also formerly owned a V tail....with a 2006 NA SR22. I could not be happier with the decision.

While I love Beech products, I have new love for this SR22 and have been overjoyed with the low airframe time, TKS, glass panel and beautiful view of the sleek wing panels from the drivers seat...etc...

Let me know if I can be of any assistance with your new ownership experience.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2013, 21:34

I haven't read the posts on this thread. I did read the subject line which includes "Bring on the Jokes!"

My thoughts? The joke's on you. Good luck. 'Sorry, my friend (and broker), it's just my opinion of that brand of airplane. 'Hope you like that little side stick instead of a wheel.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2013, 21:42

Username Protected wrote:

I haven't read the posts on this thread. I did read the subject line which includes "Bring on the Jokes!"

My thoughts? The joke's on you. Good luck. 'Sorry, my friend (and broker), it's just my opinion of that brand of airplane. 'Hope you like that little side stick instead of a wheel.

Max!
That's kinda harsh...

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2013, 21:53

Username Protected wrote:

This is silly but I cannot believe the F33 was made with the center column post-84. Small detail but it really pisses me off

Man, I know what you mean. All the rest are really messed up post-84!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2013, 22:02

Username Protected wrote:

Don - When I look at G36 useful load at 1033 it is less than the new Cirrus and in line with the pre-G5. The G36 has two more REAL seats but not the load to go with it.

Don said A36. Yeah, the G is a pig. My old V35B has more than the G36 - 1,270 UL. :shrug:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2013, 22:08

Username Protected wrote:

I haven't read the posts on this thread. I did read the subject line which includes "Bring on the Jokes!"

My thoughts? The joke's on you. Good luck. 'Sorry, my friend (and broker), it's just my opinion of that brand of airplane. 'Hope you like that little side stick instead of a wheel.

Max!
That's kinda harsh...

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2013, 22:11

Username Protected wrote:

Either one of those planes have many options for ungrades, Tips, TAT, and many more. Have you ever seen a Cirrus with tips?

No extra tanks, but they do make active winglet tips..

Username Protected · **Posted:** 22 Mar 2013, 22:44

Username Protected wrote:

Don - When I look at G36 useful load at 1033 it is less than the new Cirrus and in line with the pre-G5. The G36 has two more REAL seats but not the load to go with it.

Paul,

I fly a 2007 G36 with an 1173 pound useful load. If the owner paid a couple thousand more for a piece of paper from Osborne (GWI from 3833 to 4024) the useful load would jump to 1364 pounds. But yes, the useful load of a stock G36 from the factory (with AC) is weak at 1000 pounds. But the cost to add tip tanks to a G36 is fairly small when compared to the total price of a G36 which is why you see many G36's with tip tanks and/or TAT TN systems.

-Neal

We're replacing the Bo with an SR22 - Bring on the Jokes!