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Post subject: Re: What’s the best VALUE in a FIKI, pressurized aircraft? Posted: 26 May 2019, 17:46 |
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Username Protected wrote: Interesting post Mike. Are there really nice ones out there in the 300 range? I second what Mike says about the MU2. I owned a 421 before the MU2 and it was constantly in the shop. Knock on wood, my Solitaire has been incredible. You really can't fly the 421 much above FL220 and the MU2 can easily fly anywhere in the 20s. You get very spoiled flying 300kts. On Dave's question, You can find great MU2s for 300k. A few weeks ago, I was considering a Citation and considered selling mine for very close to that amount. I've seen incredible F models with low time engines and Garmin avionics for 300k. An MU2 like that will fly for years with minimal maintenance.
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Post subject: Re: What’s the best VALUE in a FIKI, pressurized aircraft? Posted: 26 May 2019, 23:35 |
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Post subject: Re: What’s the best VALUE in a FIKI, pressurized aircraft? Posted: 29 May 2019, 22:15 |
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Username Protected wrote: I love these threads. Just having a bit of fun: ___________________________________________________ OP: Which tail dragger under $15K is best?
Poster 1: Have you considered a 1948 Bonanza? I’m selling mine.
OP: No. It’s not a tail dragger.
Poster 2: I have a 1984 A-36, turbo normalized and it flies way better than a 1948 Bonanza.
OP: Would a Cessna 140 be OK?
Poster 1: My 1948 Bonanza actually prints money every time you fly it. It’s for sale.
Poster 3: Bonanza’s are OK but what if you lose an engine what are you going to do? That’s why I have a 1974 Cessna 310. They are fast and don’t cost a penny to operate.
OP: I’ve always liked Citabria’s. Anyone have some data those?
Poster 4: Cessna 310’s are death traps. I have a Duke and it is way faster, safer and cheaper than any pressurized twin. It goes twelve thousand mile an hour and doesn’t fly like a mail truck.
OP: Yeah. Those are out of my budget. I’m looking at a Cub. I hear those are fun.
Poster 5: I have all the data. A MU-2 is what you need. I have kept all the receipts and in 9 years of ownership it has only cost me $19 to operate.
Poster 4: Oh. Here we go again. My buddy knows a guy who once owned a plane at an airport where another guy talked to a fellow who knew a guy who owned an MU-2. He said they always fly upside down.
OP: Any know of a place near Bumblestank, Kentucky where I can get a pre-purchase inspection on a Cub? I found a nice one, I think.
Poster 6: If you are going with an MU-2, there are plenty of Citations on the market for the same money. You buy it, fly it for 9000 hours and then you can part it out. You’ll make at least $5mil on that kind of deal.
Poster 5: I have 87 spread sheets and can dispute this all.
Poster 7: I have a Phenom.
Poster 6: Anyone want to buy my Citation? It’s great.
Poster 5: If it’s so great why are you selling it?
Poster 6: Um. My wife is pregnant and we are expecting 10-tuplets. Not enough seats on the Citation.
Poster 7: I hear the Mexican government is selling their Dreamliner. I’m considering it.
OP: Anyone have the web address to another forum? ______________________________________________ All in good fun. All in good fun. 91st post takes a gold medal I loved it Mu2 does seem a lot of bang for the buck
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Post subject: Re: What’s the best VALUE in a FIKI, pressurized aircraft? Posted: 30 May 2019, 03:45 |
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Username Protected wrote: Mu2 does seem a lot of bang for the buck
Not anymore than Turbo Commanders. Just saying. Seems like this board has been hijacked by MU-2 cheerleaders. The TC will do everything the MU-2 does, but safer, carry more, climb better, better range, for roughly the same money. Don't discard it.
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Post subject: Re: What’s the best VALUE in a FIKI, pressurized aircraft? Posted: 30 May 2019, 07:35 |
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Username Protected wrote: Mu2 does seem a lot of bang for the buck
Not anymore than Turbo Commanders. Just saying. Seems like this board has been hijacked by MU-2 cheerleaders and fanboys. The TC will do everything the MU-2 does, but safer, carry more, climb better, better range, for roughly the same money. Don't discard it. Poster 8.
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Post subject: Re: What’s the best VALUE in a FIKI, pressurized aircraft? Posted: 30 May 2019, 08:43 |
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Username Protected wrote: The TC will do everything the MU-2 does Except fit in a small hangar, ride turbulence well, and stay out of the maintenance shop. I very seriously considered buying a turbine Commander, but they do have a reputation for being maintenance hogs, something Adam can attest to personally. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: What’s the best VALUE in a FIKI, pressurized aircraft? Posted: 30 May 2019, 08:46 |
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Username Protected wrote: Adam, from casusl observation, it certainly seems like the well maintained desirable models of Turbo Commanders are 2x the cost of an MU2 I don't think it's that much, but they're a tad more, for sure. The bottom of the barrel MU-2's you see are often early -1 models that should be more readily compared to 681 models (which never come on market), so it's hard to form a basis. Few -10 engined MU2's (which is what you want, ideally) for less than $500-600K, which is pretty close to TC pricing w. same engine. I like MU-2's, I considered one myself many times. I wouldn't discourage anyone from it. It just feels like nobody mentions the other options in that bracket; TC's, Merlins and B100's. Especially the B100 on here gets the omertà. It's like the red headed step child that was convicted of stealing the family silver. The unmentionable. 
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Post subject: Re: What’s the best VALUE in a FIKI, pressurized aircraft? Posted: 30 May 2019, 14:26 |
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Username Protected wrote: Mu2 does seem a lot of bang for the buck
Not anymore than Turbo Commanders. Just saying. Seems like this board has been hijacked by MU-2 cheerleaders. The TC will do everything the MU-2 does, but safer, carry more, climb better, better range, for roughly the same money. Don't discard it.
I wouldn’t kick a TC out of bed but then again it would only fit in one hangar at my home airport and it’s not mine.
I haven’t seen many functional 300k turbo commanders...
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Post subject: Re: What’s the best VALUE in a FIKI, pressurized aircraft? Posted: 30 May 2019, 17:27 |
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Username Protected wrote: Anyone know if the Cheyenne I or II can have 8 seats? Everything for sale online look to have 7 seats. Not worried about W&B- 4 kids... I understand... but I’d still check w&b 421 was almost impossible to put any two potty-trained humans on the 7th8th seats
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