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Post subject: Re: RVSM and ADSB Posted: 11 Jan 2019, 10:37 |
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Username Protected wrote: TCAS II is required equipment. No, it isn't. (4) A TCAS II that meets TSO C-119b (Version 7.0), or a later version, if equipped with TCAS II, unless otherwise authorized by the Administrator.If you are equipped with TCAS II, it must be 7.0 or later. If you are not equipped, no requirement to be so. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: RVSM and ADSB Posted: 11 Jan 2019, 12:43 |
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Username Protected wrote: One thing that I haven’t seen mentioned here for the new ruling is what I found in the fine print. TCAS II is required equipment. I don’t think many of us have that. Am I reading this correctly? TCAS II is different than just TCAS or a TAS system as many of us have. TCAS II gives you RA’s, Resolution Advisories. No, read it more carefully. If you have TCAS II, it has to be of a certain version.
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Post subject: Re: RVSM and ADSB Posted: 12 Jan 2019, 09:24 |
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Username Protected wrote: TCAS II is required equipment. No, it isn't. (4) A TCAS II that meets TSO C-119b (Version 7.0), or a later version, if equipped with TCAS II, unless otherwise authorized by the Administrator.If you are equipped with TCAS II, it must be 7.0 or later. If you are not equipped, no requirement to be so. Mike C. I struggled with this too, a much clearer English way to phrase it would have been:
(4) If equipped with TCAS II, The TCAS II must be TSO C-119b (Version 7.0), or a later version, unless otherwise authorized by the Administrator.
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Post subject: Re: RVSM and ADSB Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 20:03 |
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I posted this in the thread about RVSM and ADS-B in Turbine Talk. Figure I would post it here too... I reached out to Ric Peri, VP of Government and Industry Affairs with the Aircraft Electronics Association, a subject matter expert. I asked: Quote: There is some confusion out there regarding the new Part 91 Appendix G that I am hoping you could help clear up. The way I read it, the new rule only eliminates the need for an LOA. The equipment requirements remain unchanged. There are some who believe the new rule allows them to fly in RVSM airspace with their previously non-compliant equipment as long as it is within tolerance on that flight. Wondering what your take is? His response: Quote: In the preamble to the final rule (page 65490) the FAA states: “In the NPRM, the FAA only proposed to remove the requirement to submit an application for RVSM authorization if an aircraft is equipped with a qualified ADS–B Out system.”
So, as I read the rule, you are correct in that the new rule only eliminates the need for an LOA. There is nothing in the new rule that would indicate a change in the equipment requirements or the aircraft certification requirements.
If your equipment wasn't good enough for RVSM before the new rule, it isn't good enough now.
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Post subject: Re: RVSM and ADSB Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 21:24 |
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Has this article from Dec 31, 2018 already been posted?. https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news ... on-processQuote: Operators of ADS–B Out-equipped aircraft will be able to begin RVSM operations immediately when the new rule is effective on January 22. The RVSM application process itself will in effect be eliminated entirely after Jan. 1, 2020 when all aircraft intending to operate in RVSM and other controlled airspace must be ADS-B equipped.
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Post subject: Re: RVSM and ADSB Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 22:50 |
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Username Protected wrote: How will the RVSM process be eliminated on January 1, 2020 if you still want to operate under an LOA to cross the border The old way is maintained, you can still operate under LOA under section 2 and 3, just like before. Nothing is going away, just a new way is added. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: RVSM and ADSB Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 22:51 |
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Username Protected wrote: What equipment code do i now use if I have ADSB installed? If your aircraft complies with section 9, you file as RVSM equipped. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: RVSM and ADSB Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 23:00 |
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Username Protected wrote: What equipment code do i now use if I have ADSB installed? /L
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Post subject: Re: RVSM and ADSB Posted: 14 Jan 2019, 23:21 |
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Username Protected wrote: What equipment code do i now use if I have ADSB installed? /L /W for RVSM, /L for RVSM + GPS for FAA flight plans.
W in equipment codes for ICAO flight plans.
Are they ever going to turn off the old flight plan form? Have pushed that back at least twice.
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