BeechTalk - BT - Off the market (2008 Pilatus PC12NG)

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Nov 2018, 08:57

Username Protected wrote:

If you get a Call from a # with area code 360, just Ignore, just a Tire Kicker that'll waste your Time :bugeye:

A lot of Microsoft money in that area code...
I would take the call....

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Nov 2018, 13:42

I'll contribute to the thread drift:

I'd sell it and buy a new Suburban. It does everything and has the huge door. Get the warranty/servicing and keep flying it like you stole it!

In the mean time, keep chipping away at the guy with the jet in your hangar to use it on the occasional long legs.

Friends of mine just did the exact same thing. Wanted a jet, but the burban does everything so well. They take it to the slopes often during the winter. 90% of time it's used for the exact 250 nm leg.

I assume EPPS has been all over you about trading it in on a new one!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Nov 2018, 14:40

Username Protected wrote:

I'll contribute to the thread drift:

I'd sell it and buy a new Suburban. It does everything and has the huge door. Get the warranty/servicing and keep flying it like you stole it!

In the mean time, keep chipping away at the guy with the jet in your hangar to use it on the occasional long legs.

Friends of mine just did the exact same thing. Wanted a jet, but the burban does everything so well. They take it to the slopes often during the winter. 90% of time it's used for the exact 250 nm leg.

I assume EPPS has been all over you about trading it in on a new one!

I agree. If I could lease that CJ3 for my Colorado trips I'd be golden. The CJ3 owner uses it for 250NM flights and even then it sits in the hangar 99% of the time. I feel bad for it. I told him he could have my Pilatus when I have the CJ3 so he'd never be without an airplane. He wouldn't budge.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Nov 2018, 14:41

Pat Epps has a CJ3 he wants to sell. Talk with him or one of the girls and make a deal. The plane isn't flying enough for them to hold on to it. Possibly a partnership on the jet and keep the TP.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Nov 2018, 18:22

Username Protected wrote:

I told him he could have my Pilatus when I have the CJ3 so he'd never be without an airplane.

What's the cost of initial/recurrent/insurance and the wet/dry lease itself vs. chartering a jet for the amount of times you do your Colorado trip?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Nov 2018, 18:23

Username Protected wrote:

I told him he could have my Pilatus when I have the CJ3 so he'd never be without an airplane.

What's the cost of initial/recurrent/insurance and the wet/dry lease itself vs. chartering a jet for the amount of times you do your Colorado trip?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Nov 2018, 20:14

Maybe snoop around the other airports in ATL or 25 min flight away. Has to be a guy looking to cut some expenses.
Also- Try hitting the sales reps up with your inquire about a dry lease.. These guys usually a lot of the owners. Something is bound to fall in your lap..

Username Protected · **Posted:** 26 Nov 2018, 20:16

Username Protected wrote:

Maybe snoop around the other airports in ATL or 25 min flight away. Has to be a guy looking to cut some expenses.
Also- Try hitting the sales reps up with your inquire about a dry lease.. These guys usually a lot of the owners. Something is bound to fall in your lap..

Yeah I keep asking around.

Insurance will allow me to skip Pilatus recurrent if I get Typed in something else. So it's a win win.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Nov 2018, 01:07

Let me try this...

Username Protected wrote:

Have you flown when you really didn't want to fly/feel like flying or even not feel 100% ?
Yes. Sometimes you need to get somewhere, whether you feel like it or not.

Have you flown someplace you didn't want to go? Often. My wife makes you me fly her to see the in-laws.

Have you flown in weather you didn't want to fly in? All the time. I'd prefer it was CAVU, but that's not always the case.

Have you flown equipment you really don't like (poorly equipped, quirky features, intermittent un-diagnosed failures? Sure. I've flown more crappy rentals/club planes than I can count.

If the answer to all these is no, you have not experienced the professional side of aviation.

The professional HAS to fly. The amateur can call the whole thing off if he/she feels like it.

Getting paid alone doesn't get you over the line.

Sounds like I am a pro pilot, all the way. :dancing:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Nov 2018, 09:22

Username Protected wrote:

Sounds like I am a pro pilot, all the way. :dancing:

You and I finally agree on something.

Have you flown when you really didn't want to fly/feel like flying or even not feel 100% ? Yes.

Have you flown equipment you really don't like (poorly equipped, quirky features, intermittent un-diagnosed failures? Yes I've flown crappy rental planes. I had to learn the 172 to get my Commercial Rating this year. Never flew one before then and it was awful. The day of my check ride the headset jacks became unscrewed and fell behind the panel. I almost had to cancel because ti was a Saturday and the mechanic was gone but I found a screwdriver and fixed it myself.

Have you flown in weather you didn't want to fly in? Yes, last week to Asheville, NC. Approach to minimums both ways.

Have you flown someplace you didn't want to go? Sometimes I have to fly to Cincincatti on business..... I hate it.

Wouldn't any pilot answer the same?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Nov 2018, 09:41

Hmm, so maybe the pros aren’t the only ones that get to fly in bad weather, sometimes to a destination they’d rather not be going to, dealing with sub-par equipment, and sometimes don’t feel their best? Who would have thought?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 27 Nov 2018, 17:33

Looks like I may have come full circle. There aren't many, if any 2018's to choose from. I can order a 2019 model for delivery next year but then I'm worried the 2020 model is gonna have a lot of new changes.