BeechTalk - BT

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Aug 2016, 22:43

Interesting challenge today. Flew from KSAW to KDAL. KDAL is a busy busy place. Landed on 13L..as I departed the runway I had a failure of some sort. I could not hear anyone on the radios nor could they hear me. Complete silence. The last thing I heard was "Dotcom 2091 make first available left contact ground"...."SW xxxx line up and wait". Boom....no radios.

What do you do?

:scratch:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Aug 2016, 22:45

Reach behind my copilot seat and turn on the handheld radio.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Aug 2016, 22:50

Sorry Mark my PPL instructor failed to tell me how to get out of that fix on the ground at DAL or ORD. Perhaps cross the hold short line onto the taxiway, then shut down and walk to the nearest bar? No FAR's broken that way.... :coffee:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Aug 2016, 22:58

Username Protected wrote:

Reach behind my copilot seat and turn on the handheld radio.

Handheld in the 310....note to self.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Aug 2016, 22:58

Username Protected wrote:

Sorry Mark my PPL instructor failed to tell me how to get out of that fix on the ground at DAL or ORD. Perhaps cross the hold short line onto the taxiway, then shut down and walk to the nearest bar? No FAR's broken that way.... :coffee:

Pretty appealing option.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Aug 2016, 23:05

Username Protected wrote:

Reach behind my copilot seat and turn on the handheld radio.

Handheld in the 310....note to self.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Aug 2016, 23:09

Username Protected wrote:

Seriously. Never fly without the cheap but priceless backup. Makes a really helpless feeling dissappear when panel goes dead.

Don't forget to charge and test regularly.

But assume you f* up and forget your radio or forget to charge the battery.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Aug 2016, 23:16

Were you flying the Citation or the 310? KDFW sure is busy... on the ground! The times I have flown in there, I have pen and paper ready well in advance.

So how did this unfold?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Aug 2016, 23:21

Username Protected wrote:

Seriously. Never fly without the cheap but priceless backup. Makes a really helpless feeling dissappear when panel goes dead.

Don't forget to charge and test regularly.

But assume you f* up and forget your radio or forget to charge the battery.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 04 Aug 2016, 23:24

Username Protected wrote:

Were you flying the Citation or the 310? KDFW sure is busy... on the ground! The times I have flown in there, I have pen and paper ready well in advance.

So how did this unfold?

Citation (hence the thread :lol:

).

Radios just quit. Nothing. Pull squelch....nada.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Aug 2016, 02:40

Get past hold; check breakers?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Aug 2016, 06:55

Username Protected wrote:

Interesting challenge today. Flew from KSAW to KDAL. KDAL is a busy busy place. Landed on 13L..as I departed the runway I had a failure of some sort. I could not hear anyone on the radios nor could they hear me. Complete silence. The last thing I heard was "Dotcom 2091 make first available left contact ground"...."SW xxxx line up and wait". Boom....no radios.

What do you do?

:scratch:

Hold and make a call on the cell.

Andrew

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Aug 2016, 07:10

Username Protected wrote:

Interesting challenge today. Flew from KSAW to KDAL. KDAL is a busy busy place. Landed on 13L..as I departed the runway I had a failure of some sort. I could not hear anyone on the radios nor could they hear me. Complete silence. The last thing I heard was "Dotcom 2091 make first available left contact ground"...."SW xxxx line up and wait". Boom....no radios.

What do you do?

:scratch:

Hold and make a call on the cell.

Andrew

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Aug 2016, 07:13

Sure enough. What if your phone is dead or you can't access it?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Aug 2016, 07:29

My thoughts:

1) make sure you pull over the line to minimize disruptions. - did that.
2) I sqwauked 7600 to indicate I couldn't communicate...turns out the tower/ground cannot see that sqwauk so creative as it may have been it didn't matter

3) cell phone....good idea...Google did show a number. It was not my first thought.
4) I was right across from an Fbo....should I just taxi in, shut down and call?
5) I like to tell tower the Fbo I am using to facilitate exiting the runway at the proper spot...important in this case because they knew where I was heading at least.
6) light gun? I would have to position my aircraft 180 deg different in order to see it. And I couldn't see it while taxiing so not real useful.
7) trouble shoot it...I have a new wireless Lightspeed tango. I think the problem was caused by that unit shutting down. I put on the copilot headset and used the CP ppt...I could communicate.

All I will say is if you get surprised and haven't thought about it in advance it will be a lot harder than if you have given it some thought. Lots of pressure at a busy place. Pressure is not your friend.

Called tower this morning to get their POV. They said 1) look for light signals. 2) or just slow taxi and call us to tell us what happened.

Flying the Citation II