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 Post subject: Cirrus convert
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I recently was named on my friends policy as a pilot for his SR20. Im temporarily suspending my search for a plane. Flew the SR 20 yesterday and fell n love with it. Has the avionics I want and I can rent with no hassle of ownership. Love Bo, but this is too good an opportunity to pass up.

The private T hangar/man cave that the SR20 resides in is a plus. Chairs, stocked fridge, it's wonderful.


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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus convert
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Conversion or seduction?


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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus convert
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Very different experience
More of a car feel than a plane.
Cirrus are great, but they make you lazy, and let you forget that you are a pilot.
I can understand why there are so many accidents involving cirrus.
I fly sr22 once in a while, and it is a very different feel. I don't really like the relax feel. Just because you have that red strap, than everything is not going to be ok. You still need to pilot. It is still a plane.

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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus convert
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Nothing wrong with that. Enjoy. You probably never need yo fly with more than 4 people plus bags.



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I recently was named on my friends policy as a pilot for his SR20. Im temporarily suspending my search for a plane. Flew the SR 20 yesterday and fell n love with it. Has the avionics I want and I can rent with no hassle of ownership. Love Bo, but this is too good an opportunity to pass up.


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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus convert
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Arthur,

Go for it! It's a great plane to fly. If you get a chance, also try out the -22....even more fun!

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Sounds like a great deal for you. :thumbup:

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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus convert
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Very different experience
More of a car feel than a plane.
Cirrus are great, but they make you lazy, and let you forget that you are a pilot.
I can understand why there are so many accidents involving cirrus.
I fly sr22 once in a while, and it is a very different feel. I don't really like the relax feel. Just because you have that red strap, than everything is not going to be ok. You still need to pilot. It is still a plane.


Here we go again :doh:. It's getting to be be like twin vs. single...


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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus convert
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Arthur,

Go for it! It's a great plane to fly. If you get a chance, also try out the -22....even more fun!


Thanks Arlen. My buddy is in a partnership with two other guys. They all wanted me involved as they may be looking at a 22 Turbo in future, and want to see how we all fit. It's a relatively inexpensive rate just $15 more ph than the Archer I'm getting my IR in. It has the exact avionics. We all get along, they have a T hanger with a fridge in it so it's fun also hanging out. Feel I can't lose.

I'm got back into flying to visit my kids. Yesterday was doing 140 kias which translated to 165 gs due to winds. At 8.6 ff per hour. Blew me away.


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Conversion or seduction?


Good question David.


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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus convert
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140 kias at what altitude?

The 20 seems like a good trainer, but I never understood why someone would choose one for a traveling machine when the 22 is available. Kind of like the Cheetah and the Tiger in the Grumman line.

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140 kias at what altitude?

The 20 seems like a good trainer, but I never understood why someone would choose one for a traveling machine when the 22 is available. Kind of like the Cheetah and the Tiger in the Grumman line.


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140 kias at what altitude?

The 20 seems like a good trainer, but I never understood why someone would choose one for a traveling machine when the 22 is available. Kind of like the Cheetah and the Tiger in the Grumman line.


Money and Mission. If you need a 2 person travel machine for 450 nm or less trips 90% of the time and do a lot of local flying, the 20 fits the bill better. The 20 would be only 25 minutes slower at the max distance and since most trips are <300 for a lot of people the time difference shrinks to 15 minutes or less for less gas and cost but the same size cabin.


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Very different experience
More of a car feel than a plane.
Cirrus are great, but they make you lazy, and let you forget that you are a pilot.
I can understand why there are so many accidents involving cirrus.
I fly sr22 once in a while, and it is a very different feel. I don't really like the relax feel. Just because you have that red strap, than everything is not going to be ok. You still need to pilot. It is still a plane.


Franck,

Sorry but this is funny.
Speed management on a Cirrus is much more critical then in a Bonanza. In a Cirrus, you come in fast you will float forever and go off the runway. The laminar flow wing with stiff gear means when you set a Cirrus down, you feel everything. If you want to grease it you better be on your "A" game. The Bonanza you have more options to control speed, prop control and gear for example. Also the Bonanza has better shocks, a more forgiving airfoil... end result a Bonanza is much easier to fly and a much more forgiving airplane. This applies to almost every aspect of flight.

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We once had a cirrus pilot, who had just picked up the airplane at GSO, perform multiple PIO bounces and go arounds being obviously too fast, ending in a prop strike and go around and a landing. He got out of the airplane and complained that the runway was too short. 4552' :beechslap:


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140 kias at what altitude?

The 20 seems like a good trainer, but I never understood why someone would choose one for a traveling machine when the 22 is available. Kind of like the Cheetah and the Tiger in the Grumman line.

Seriously, who buys a 20? You'd be happy with it for 3 hours and want faster.


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