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Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Dec 2011, 19:39

I've been wondering why the Albatros is rarely mentioned here on BT (yes, I know it's not a Beech). Seems like there would be people on this board who would love to own and fly this plane. I was chatting with a coworker about them at lunch today and he sent me this link to a TV show featuring an Albatros:

http://www.history.com/shows/pawn-stars ... -high-club

I'm really hoping that Navy pilot did a lot more inspection off-camera before he hopped in and flew the thing around the patch, but boy did that look like a lot of fun.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Dec 2011, 19:46

Last thread on the L39 determined that you couldn't just go fly it whenever you liked. Don't know if this is true. But I'm not asking permission from the local fsdo to fly my airplane.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Dec 2011, 19:59

Username Protected wrote:

I've been wondering why the Albatros is rarely mentioned here on BT (yes, I know it's not a Beech). Seems like there would be people on this board who would love to own and fly this plane. I was chatting with a coworker about them at lunch today and he sent me this link to a TV show featuring an Albatros:

The last guy on this board who bought an old military jet spiked it into a frozen river after an impromptu private air-show.

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I'm really hoping that Navy pilot did a lot more inspection off-camera before he hopped in and flew the thing around the patch, but boy did that look like a lot of fun.

Look at the accident reports for the L29, L39 and Fouga. Sadly, a good number of the operators have the mind of a 6 year old and taking off without a pre-flight would be entirely par for the course.

And yes, they are in the experimental exhibition category which restricts somewhat what you can do with them.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Dec 2011, 20:47

Username Protected wrote:

Last thread on the L39 determined that you couldn't just go fly it whenever you liked. Don't know if this is true. But I'm not asking permission from the local fsdo to fly my airplane.

Still think this is answer for ya bruh.........

http://www.controller.com/listingsdetai ... 148589.htm

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Dec 2011, 21:06

Not my cup of tea..

Let's talk Beech on a Beech forum. I wouldn't care if no other plane was ever mentioned. Take that crap to the Red Board.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Dec 2011, 21:16

Username Protected wrote:

Not my cup of tea..

Let's talk Beech on a Beech forum. I wouldn't care if no other plane was ever mentioned. Take that crap to the Red Board.

Ouch! Sorry, Larry. I thought this type of thing was fair game for "Plane Talk" in the "Aviation Discussion Forums" section, as opposed to the "Beechcraft Specific Discussion Forums" section, but maybe not. My bad.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Dec 2011, 21:29

Username Protected wrote:

Not my cup of tea..

Let's talk Beech on a Beech forum. I wouldn't care if no other plane was ever mentioned. Take that crap to the Red Board.

Ouch! Sorry, Larry. I thought this type of thing was fair game for "Plane Talk" in the "Aviation Discussion Forums" section, as opposed to the "Beechcraft Specific Discussion Forums" section, but maybe not. My bad.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Dec 2011, 21:37

The L39 is the one of the most fun aircraft I've flown. Good for aerobatics, easy to fly, simple and robust systems. A very accessible way to experience a jet warbird. Lots of good L39 service centers scattered around the country, and a lot of the aircraft registered in the U.S. (more than 250 I think). It doesn't have the power to weight that would wow a real fighter pilot, but it's a hell of a lot of fun for those of us who haven't been spoiled that way. Spent of lot of time with them and almost pulled the trigger on one at the height of the market in 2007. Very glad I didn't. The operational limits on it as an experimental aircraft didn't hinder owners' operation back when I was in contact in 2006-2007, and I think the limits have been loosened even more since then. You could fly it for proficiency or to a place where it was going to be exhibited. That pretty much opens the door for owners since every flight is essentially a proficiency flight. If you went outside your FSDO area, you faxed notice of your destination airport to the controlling FSDO, but that was all--no permission required. The owner groups had no problem flying where they wanted to.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Dec 2011, 21:41

Hi David -

Technically, this is the correct forum to discuss general-type aviation topics that don't specifically relate to one of the other specific forums. If the topic is Beech specific, it belongs in Beech Singles, Beech Twins, Beech Turbines, or Beech Classics.

If you need any additional details, there is a How-To on the subject in the How-To sub forum under BeechTalk News at the top of the forum listing.

:peace:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Dec 2011, 21:44

Username Protected wrote:

The L39 is the one of the most fun aircraft I've flown. Good for aerobatics, easy to fly, simple and robust systems. A very accessible way to experience a jet warbird. Lots of good L39 service centers scattered around the country, and a lot of the aircraft registered in the U.S. (more than 250 I think). It doesn't have the power to weight that would wow a real fighter pilot, but it's a hell of a lot of fun for those of us who haven't been spoiled that way. Spent of lot of time with them and almost pulled the trigger on one at the height of the market in 2007. Very glad I didn't. The operational limits on it as an experimental aircraft didn't hinder owners' operation back when I was in contact in 2006-2007, and I think the limits have been loosened even more since then. You could fly it for proficiency or to a place where it was going to be exhibited. That pretty much opens the door for owners since every is essentially a proficiency flight. If you went outside your FSDO area, you faxed notice of your destination airport to the controlling FSDO, but that was all--no permission required. The owner groups had no problem flying where they wanted to.

There's something to be said for freedom of speech; that said knew a very good aviation attorney that looped an L39 into the ground practicing for an airshow. What a waste.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 05 Dec 2011, 21:48

Username Protected wrote:

The L39 is the one of the most fun aircraft I've flown. Good for aerobatics, easy to fly, simple and robust systems. A very accessible way to experience a jet warbird. Lots of good L39 service centers scattered around the country, and a lot of the aircraft registered in the U.S. (more than 250 I think). It doesn't have the power to weight that would wow a real fighter pilot, but it's a hell of a lot of fun for those of us who haven't been spoiled that way. Spent of lot of time with them and almost pulled the trigger on one at the height of the market in 2007. Very glad I didn't. The operational limits on it as an experimental aircraft didn't hinder owners' operation back when I was in contact in 2006-2007, and I think the limits have been loosened even more since then. You could fly it for proficiency or to a place where it was going to be exhibited. That pretty much opens the door for owners since every is essentially a proficiency flight. If you went outside your FSDO area, you faxed notice of your destination airport to the controlling FSDO, but that was all--no permission required. The owner groups had no problem flying where they wanted to.

There's something to be said for freedom of speech; that said knew a very good aviation attorney that looped an L39 into the ground practicing for an airshow. What a waste.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 06 Dec 2011, 01:02

Username Protected wrote:

Not my cup of tea..

Let's talk Beech on a Beech forum. I wouldn't care if no other plane was ever mentioned. Take that crap to the Red Board.

" Plane Talk ™

A place to discuss aviation-related topics that are not related to the specific forums below. "

Let's not lose sight of the FACT that there are different forums for different topics.

I also wouldn't care if rude abrupt posts were kept outta here as well.

So, I'm thinkin you can take your crap to one of ED's gaming boards and be as belligerent as you want and we'll all be just fine!

Username Protected · **Posted:** 06 Dec 2011, 01:36

I just worked a guy today flying an L39 and is based out of Hobby here in Houston. It is my understanding he owns a very well known FBO there. Nice guy on the frequency and didn't seem to mind answering my questions. It seems like a pretty neat little airplane, but man, 125 gph?!? Maybe someday after 4 or 5 wells hit! He didn't have a transponder when he came in, was IFR, and very appreciative that I agreed to work him in. My response? "Now you just have to give me a ride in that thing and we are even!" to which he answered "You've got a deal." Time to keep the fingers crossed.

It is amazing how many rides I have been promised by local pilots with unique airplanes, but funny that none of them have came through on those promises. :scratch:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 06 Dec 2011, 13:10

Username Protected wrote:

It is amazing how many rides I have been promised by local pilots with unique airplanes, but funny that none of them have came through on those promises. :scratch:

The next time they come in IFR, it sounds like they deserved to be placed in a hold for some time until the details of the upcoming flight is worked out.

John

Username Protected · **Posted:** 06 Dec 2011, 13:12

Username Protected wrote:

It is amazing how many rides I have been promised by local pilots with unique airplanes, but funny that none of them have came through on those promises. :scratch:

Isn't it ! I see the same trend here.

L39 Albatros