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 Post subject: A C172 started the end of the Cold War?
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This morning I took one of my German colleagues and his daughter for their first GA plane ride. While we were cruising around he mentioned a guy named Mathias Rust and how he started the end of the Cold War.

In a nutshell Mathias flew a C172 nap of the earth into the USSR and landed on the Red Square. The event humiliated the USSR military because they couldn't keep track of him. During periods they did spot his airplane they were afraid to shoot him down. That was in 1987 and the USSR was finished four years later.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathias_Rust

New story to me. :shrug:

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It cracks me up that he landed on the Red Square and in the photo is just standing there having a smoke.

If that was in the US he would be piled on, tazered, batoned, cuffed, . . .

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That didn't start the end of the cold war or the USSR, they were in severe decline many years prior to that. But it did embarrass them greatly and dozens of military officers were fired.

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I was in Germany at the time and it was a pretty big thing. a few years later when the F-117 was unveiled I bought a patch that had a top view of the C-172 and "Cessna 172" around the top rim and "Original Stealth" on the bottom rim. Sometime later my kids "disappeared" it.

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But it did embarrass them greatly and dozens of military officers were fired.


They got fired for not shooting him down when they had contact with him at several occasions.

He was and still is a major douchebag. Never occured to him that the aeroclub would loose the plane if he flew it to moscow.

He later served time in prison in germany for attempted manslaughter when a nursing student failed to be impressed my mister hot-shot pilots sexual advances and he ended up stabbing her. Narcicistic personality disorder at its best.


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It may not have started the end, but it certainly helped....

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That didn't start the end of the cold war or the USSR, they were in severe decline many years prior to that. But it did embarrass them greatly and dozens of military officers were fired.


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It did facilitate the end of the Soviet Union and the Cold war, and here's why:
Mattias Rust's busting of Moscow airspace allowed Gorbachev to eliminate many hardliners in top military positions. The heads that rolled were not randomly chosen. They were Gorby's mortal enemies. It strengthened his hand enough to pull off perestrioka, and we all know how that ended up.
It also blew a gust of clean, fresh air right through the USSR, with some interesting effects. One of them concerns a man I wrote a book about: Captain Igor Britanov, the commander of the K-219- a Soviet YANKEE-class boomer that sank off Bermuda in 1986. The book, Hostile Waters, details exactly how Britanov saved most of his men, but at the expense of being branded a traitor by his own Navy. Mattais Rust's flight cleared out a bunch of old admirals, not just air defense generals, and so Britanov's death sentence for treason was revoked and he went on to a hero's retirement.
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It cracks me up that he landed on the Red Square and in the photo is just standing there having a smoke.

If that was in the US he would be piled on, tazered, batoned, cuffed, . . .


How do you say, "Don't tase me bro" in Russian.

[youtube]http://youtu.be/6bVa6jn4rpE[/youtube]

The difference makes us look like a bunch of police state idiots.


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The difference makes us look like a bunch of police state idiots.


Yeah, in the US he may have ended up in cuffs, but he would have been out the next day on bail and received a fine for improper lane use. The soviets put him in a labor camp for a bit over a year (didn' fix his personality disorder though).


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I was in Germany at the time and it was a pretty big thing. a few years later when the F-117 was unveiled I bought a patch that had a top view of the C-172 and "Cessna 172" around the top rim and "Original Stealth" on the bottom rim. Sometime later my kids "disappeared" it.


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Thanks for posting this. I was 11 when this happened and I had forgot all about it.


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. . . Narcicistic personality disorder at its best.


Florian,

You threatened me with some diagnosis back when I started to spread my wings writing on BT.

If a patriot came into your office with a political opinion that differed from yours, could you resist using your persuasive power as a doctor to advance your political opinion?

That's a serious question that trusted professionals have to deal with.

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. . . Narcicistic personality disorder at its best.


Florian,

You threatened me with some diagnosis back when I started to spread my wings writing on BT.

If a patriot came into your office with a political opinion that differed from yours, could you resist using your persuasive power as a doctor to advance your political opinion?

That's a serious question that trusted professionals have to deal with.


That's why they dont let me see patients ;) .

Rust didn't do this to create whorled peas, he did this because he was craving for attention. Later, when in a different situation, he was faced with a rejection, he acted out in a pretty violent act. After he got out of of prison for that, he ended up getting arrested for stealing a cashmere sweater :hammer: .

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That's why they dont let me see patients ;)


:coffee:

Ditto here. I'm getting better. :peace:

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That's why they dont let me see patients ;)


:coffee:

Ditto here. I'm getting better. :peace:


Oh, you asked for a diagnosis: 'Unterbayer' is probably the most fitting, it's a combination code of substance abuse and slowed mentation :hide: .

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