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Post subject: Raptor NG - Hybrid-Electric Ducted Fan Twin Posted: 21 Jul 2022, 09:04 |
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Peter is developing a hybrid-electric ducted fan twin aircraft called the Raptor NG. This go around it is not pressurized. I wish him the best of luck and look forward to his updates. This, IMHO, deserved it's own thread. This is the original Raptor thread - viewtopic.php?f=49&t=123165This is a YouTube post from about 11 months ago: [youtube]https://youtu.be/uoPvEIgRaZA[/youtube]
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Post subject: Re: Raptor NG - Hybrid-Electric Ducted Fan Twin Posted: 21 Jul 2022, 09:52 |
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Post subject: Re: Raptor NG - Hybrid-Electric Ducted Fan Twin Posted: 21 Jul 2022, 10:31 |
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Username Protected wrote: If we could take away his 3D modeling software we could put an end to the scam now. 
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Post subject: Re: Raptor NG - Hybrid-Electric Ducted Fan Twin Posted: 21 Jul 2022, 10:48 |
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Username Protected wrote: If we could take away his 3D modeling software we could put an end to the scam now. I think at this point the project is self-ending.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor NG - Hybrid-Electric Ducted Fan Twin Posted: 21 Jul 2022, 11:42 |
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I wasn’t participating here on BT when (apparently) this project was being talked about. But, I did watch a few of his videos, and I’ve got to be honest… this guy should not be designing things that can get people killed, or land on somebody’s head.
I formed that opinion well before he was turned down by professional test pilots to fly his poorly executed aircraft design, and before he himself smashed it up, amazingly without killing himself.
Certainly, there are concepts that he used which might be ok, but there wasn’t anything novel. It’s all a rehash of what’s been done before. Any smart team could do something similar, without the drama.
Plus, taking money from people to fund his project is sad.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor NG - Hybrid-Electric Ducted Fan Twin Posted: 21 Jul 2022, 14:11 |
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Username Protected wrote: But what about ducted fans anyway? Obviously they don't work or it would have already been done... Almost all airliners have ducted fans driven by turbine engines. I have a pair. They work nice. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor NG - Hybrid-Electric Ducted Fan Twin Posted: 21 Jul 2022, 14:27 |
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Username Protected wrote: But what about ducted fans anyway? Obviously they don't work or it would have already been done... Almost all airliners have ducted fans driven by turbine engines. I have a pair. They work nice. Those fans in your Citation use a few thousand horsepower (each) to make them go ‘round. The Raptor Fan will need several hundred horsepower to have reasonable performance (without getting into single engine or making the back of the napkin math too complicated). That’s a pretty big electric motor(s) and battery pack.
I wish him luck, but you cannæ change the laws of physics... and aerodynamics.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor NG - Hybrid-Electric Ducted Fan Twin Posted: 21 Jul 2022, 14:43 |
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Username Protected wrote: But what about ducted fans anyway? Obviously they don't work or it would have already been done... Almost all airliners have ducted fans driven by turbine engines. I have a pair. They work nice. Mike C. Well yes, right but... WRT to piston engines. Is there any juice in that squeeze?
Nobody likes pushers tho...
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Post subject: Re: Raptor NG - Hybrid-Electric Ducted Fan Twin Posted: 21 Jul 2022, 15:55 |
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Piston ducted fans require very high RPM........just look to the R/C airplane world. All the "jets" used to run on ducted fans with nitro piston engines. As soon as viable r/c turbines came on the market......piston ducted fans have pretty much disappeared.
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Post subject: Re: Raptor NG - Hybrid-Electric Ducted Fan Twin Posted: 21 Jul 2022, 16:20 |
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And our adventure begins again haha I missed the regular Peter talks here........ 
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