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Post subject: Extra EA-400? Posted: 20 Nov 2020, 10:18 |
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Why did the Extra EA-400 fail? Only 27 were built I believe. Was it engine related only? Seems like an awesome design.
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Post subject: Re: Extra EA-400? Posted: 20 Nov 2020, 11:00 |
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Username Protected wrote: Why did the Extra EA-400 fail? Only 27 were built I believe. Was it engine related only? Seems like an awesome design. From what I have read, the design and certification costs drove the company to walk away from the project. Jim
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Post subject: Re: Extra EA-400? Posted: 20 Nov 2020, 11:39 |
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They developed a turbine version, the EA-500 (see this Wikipedia article). More about the Extra bankruptcy in the archives at Flying, here.
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Post subject: Re: Extra EA-400? Posted: 20 Nov 2020, 12:54 |
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Username Protected wrote: It does seem like a compelling design. Is it similar to PA46 performance? There isn't much in that level of performance like it.
A TP version would be a big seller right now.
Its a homely looking machine, but the concept is cool. TJ Well one man's homely is another man's sexy! It reminds me of a single engine MU-2.
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Post subject: Re: Extra EA-400? Posted: 20 Nov 2020, 14:45 |
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I always thought it was cool. Seemed like a very useful design.
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Post subject: Re: Extra EA-400? Posted: 22 Nov 2020, 05:25 |
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In 2013/2014 there was a lovely EA-400 in Marl (EDLM), pristine condition. D-ETTH if I am not wrong. But whilst it spent a lot of time outside on the apron, and despite the fact that we were at the airport every day, I never saw it fly. edit: now in Dinslaken, up for sale: https://www.aircraft24.fr/singleprop/ex ... 134536.htm
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Post subject: Re: Extra EA-400? Posted: 22 Nov 2020, 07:49 |
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From what I could find online it sounds like the composite construction and ergonomic cockpit and cabin are really the only thing it has going for it. Engine (it eats cylinders, a new engine costs upward of $90,000), exhaust system and landing gear are all problematic and expensive. 3 of the 27 or so built have crashed for various reasons.
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Post subject: Re: Extra EA-400? Posted: 22 Nov 2020, 08:54 |
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Once the Piper Malibu/Mirage grabbed the single engine pressurized niche, a new entrant would need some compelling advantage. Just like Cirrus owns the 4 seat cross country single market... how much better would a new plane have to be to win there?
A practical person looks at the Malibu, and the Ea400, and says I’ll take the one with a large, supported fleet and resale market. Same issue with the EA500 and the Meridian.
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Post subject: Re: Extra EA-400? Posted: 22 Nov 2020, 22:23 |
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Username Protected wrote: A tenant at my local airport just bought one. Hasn't brought it home yet. Not sure if it will fit in his T-hangar, so it might end up in my common hangar. My landlord just told me it will fit in the new owners T-hangar.
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