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Post subject: Re: Best non-pressurized cabin class: Navajo vs 414 or other  Posted: 06 Mar 2013, 21:51 |
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Username Protected wrote: So the windshield is actual glass ?
Dont even want to know how much they cost if you break one. The heated glass pilot side windshield on the 414 is rumored to be a $25,000 touch. I was glad that mine recently had been replaced.
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Post subject: Re: Best non-pressurized cabin class: Navajo vs 414 or other Posted: 06 Mar 2013, 22:09 |
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Larry The one he bought or 100k, low times engines, cargo door, q tip props, cargo quick fittings in the floor. Sweet deal. Okay avionics. On my 310 I never have to worry about family and wife flying because I can never get them to fly with me. Remy Username Protected wrote: I have a Navajo 310. Love it. Burn 16 a side at 75% about 175 knots cruise. I am 6feet 3 and plenty of room up front. A 1000 miles range? Like Larry said, that is pushing it. I'd agree with others, get another insurance company.
With the economy the way it is, I have seen several Navajo owners downgrade to smaller planes, after all it costs about $1300 just to fill it up! You can't give them away right now. A guy 2 hangars down from me just bought a Panther Navajo for $100k!
Remy
Remy, A Navajo panther at $100k is a killer deal, even with high time engines. A great plane. Miss m Navajo, but it was a party plane and the Baron is much better for my mission. Same speed, much less fuel and maintenance..... However, can't fit my wife and girlfriend in the Baron .... 
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Post subject: Re: Best non-pressurized cabin class: Navajo vs 414 or other Posted: 06 Mar 2013, 22:10 |
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15k for a good used one!! If u can Find one:( Username Protected wrote: So the windshield is actual glass ?
Dont even want to know how much they cost if you break one.
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Post subject: Re: Best non-pressurized cabin class: Navajo vs 414 or other Posted: 07 Mar 2013, 10:28 |
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Username Protected wrote: So the windshield is actual glass ?
Dont even want to know how much they cost if you break one. The heated glass pilot side windshield on the 414 is rumored to be a $25,000 touch. I was glad that mine recently had been replaced.
My 421C has a plexi heated windshield (not glass). I had to replace when I purchased it, and all in it was around $20k, but paid for by a discount in the sale price.
I don't believe that any 421s have actual glass windshields, but I'm not positive about that.
Back to the topic at hand: if you really don't want pressurization, I'd take a serious look at the Navajo. Otherwise, go ahead and get pressurization and get a 421. The experience gained flying in the flight levels will make any future turbine transition easier.
However, I also agree with the other posters that you're likely insurance in a turbine twin with some mentor time. Cheaper to hire a co-pilot for a year (if that much time is even required) than to deal with an "interim" airplane.
Robert
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