It is a fact that the general public (although ignorant) consider all single engine aircraft to be a clown airplanes. A C90 is the smallest twin which maybe gets you out of clown category.

With the Pilatus it is so big that a limited few of general public will take it out of clown category. You can score a couple points on single vs. twin here on BT. But, if in a bar next to even an average looking woman trying to sell it, just put a wig and red nose on instead.

We have all heard it. Having drinks with a corporate executive friend. Get talking about flying. He says he really doesn't like flying in small airplanes and just got back from a trip. You push some more and ask him what kind of airplane it was (in the back of our mind you think it was a Cherokee 140). They don't know, but txt a friend on the same flight.....BE B200.

Unfortunately, if you are flying single engine you might as well wear a clown suit. Goes for my E Baron as well.

It is a fact that the general public (although ignorant) consider all single engine aircraft to be a clown airplanes. A C90 is the smallest twin which maybe gets you out of clown category.

With the Pilatus it is so big that a limited few of general public will take it out of clown category. You can score a couple points on single vs. twin here on BT. But, if in a bar next to even an average looking woman trying to sell it, just put a wig and red nose on instead.

We have all heard it. Having drinks with a corporate executive friend. Get talking about flying. He says he really doesn't like flying in small airplanes and just got back from a trip. You push some more and ask him what kind of airplane it was (in the back of our mind you think it was a Cherokee 140). They don't know, but txt a friend on the same flight.....BE B200.

Unfortunately, if you are flying single engine you might as well wear a clown suit. Goes for my E Baron as well.

Yeah, I never see them landing on just one. I guess that's kinda my point in this whole thing.

It is a fact that the general public (although ignorant) consider all single engine aircraft to be clown airplanes. A C90 is the smallest twin which maybe gets you out of clown category.

With the Pilatus it is so big that a limited few of general public will take it out of clown category. You can score a couple points on single vs. twin here on BT. But, if in a bar next to even an average looking woman trying to sell it, just put a wig and red nose on instead.

We have all heard it. Having drinks with a corporate executive friend. Get talking about flying. He says he really doesn't like flying in small airplanes and just got back from a trip. You push some more and ask him what kind of airplane it was (in the back of our mind you think it was a Cherokee 140). They don't know, but txt a friend on the same flight.....BE B200.

Unfortunately, if you are flying single engine you might as well wear a clown suit. Goes for my E Baron as well.

Stetson, I did not say the Pilatus was not a capable airplane. The 1/2 cost remark might have been off a little. Even Pilatus does not claim that. It uses ABOUT 2/3 the fuel as a B200 and is almost as fast. Climb rate is comparable. Just guessing hangar, insurance, inspections, pilot costs are similar. When you go to have a -67 overhauled you need to be setting down. The -42 will be expensive but, generally about 20% less than the -60's. But, again it is a VERY capable plane. The problem is it is still short one engine. IF the one engine keeps producing power it does have the advantage on operating cost. My friend who flys the NG tells me maybe 25% less than a B200 over 3600 hours. I just am not comfortable with that particular "if". Some are, many are not, that is just me. (BTW, I do not fly a KA. My owner wanted more speed without the investment required for a 300.)

I have done the manuvers in that exact simulator at Simcom in Scottsdale. The company I work for has a 2004 series 10 PC 12/45.

In general it's 2nm per 1k feet. In the sim we usually fail the engine 40 miles from ORL at about 22k feet and we easily make it back with more than enough altitude. We also fail the engine on takeoff and do the 180 back to the field. Below 1k it's straight ahead and pick a place to land.

The Pilatus is a impressive airplane....

Jason, I agree with what you are saying. My point is exactly the one you are making. There are those that feel comfortable with one engine and those that don't. I have had three complete engine failures in piston aircraft, all twins. Never had a problem in a single, I don't have a lot of SE hours but, still never an engine failure. In my limited experience corporate aviation shys away from one engine for the most part. Heck, the one pilot vs two pilot discussion still goes on. My purpose was not to convert anyone to anything. Just pointing out one obvious difference in a PC and a KA. But let me shift gears just a little. The PT6 is a good engine even if an antique design. There are many things that can go wrong besides an engine turning into a handgernade. There is fuel control equipment, enviromental, electrical, engine and prop governors and so on. Pilatus addresses some of these issues. My point is the PC is a very capable aircraft, appears well built, and has a good safety record. Also they are not half the cost of a comparable twin more like 75%. Also, a twin flown incorrectly on one engine can be very dangerous. At the end of the day if I can choose (and I can) whether to lose an engine or its associated critical systems in a single or a twin then I choose the twin. Others may choose differently. I also choose to fly for the owners that feel the same way and who choose to spend the extra money for the second engine. No converting, no preaching, just one person's preference.

It is a fact that the general public (although ignorant) consider all single engine aircraft to be clown airplanes. A C90 is the smallest twin which maybe gets you out of clown category.

With the Pilatus it is so big that a limited few of general public will take it out of clown category. You can score a couple points on single vs. twin here on BT. But, if in a bar next to even an average looking woman trying to sell it, just put a wig and red nose on instead.

We have all heard it. Having drinks with a corporate executive friend. Get talking about flying. He says he really doesn't like flying in small airplanes and just got back from a trip. You push some more and ask him what kind of airplane it was (in the back of our mind you think it was a Cherokee 140). They don't know, but txt a friend on the same flight.....BE B200.

Unfortunately, if you are flying single engine you might as well wear a clown suit. Goes for my E Baron as well.