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Post subject: Re: Grumman Tigers - Whats the 411? Posted: 20 Jul 2010, 23:24 |
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Joined: 11/01/08 Posts: 5006 Post Likes: +1634 Location: KAVQ, Tucson AZ
Aircraft: Sold em all@72
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Username Protected wrote: Guys,
thanks much for the replies, I'm not at all sure that the Owner has come to grips with the current market and I had a lengthy conversation with Bob Ferguson at AP Central about the cost to upgrade the panel but we'll see.
I did fly the plane for about an hour and it was very light and stable on the controls. Its a slippery little rascal, as I thought I'd never get is slowed down on approach. I have 200 hrs in one and owned for 3 years. I say this they are a blast. Fun, very maneuverable and just plain good airplanes plus they have great user group support. The primary issue is no rivets, the skin is glued and if not treated with respect delimitation can occur this was prevalent in 1975 when the infamous purple glue was used. A 79 is just fine. If all is well, she will love it, the canopy is very cool.
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Post subject: Re: Grumman Tigers - Whats the 411? Posted: 21 Jul 2010, 02:19 |
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Joined: 08/04/08 Posts: 1799 Post Likes: +1404 Location: MYF, San Diego, CA
Aircraft: A36
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I also had a 1979 Tiger as my first airplane and put 5-600 hours on it. It's a great airplane: fast for fixed gear, decent load carrier, and good range. Roy Lopresti was responsible for cleaning up the airplane, and he did a good job. The wheel pants aren't so tight you can't go onto grass. Make sure you get those wheel pants. The pants could probably be fabricated, but mounting gear can't be bought after-market!
I took mine to Belize and Guatemala. Flew four of us between San Diego and the Grand CAnyon with (minimal) overnight gear. The back seats fold down and provide a flat surface. I frequently carried two full-sized bikes and camping gear for two.
The canopy is good for cooling on the ground, but very noisy if opened in flight, and a pain in the rain for entry and egress. Panel space is limited. There's an STC for a different propellor that gets rid of a necessity to avoid certain RPMs
The only serious trouble I had was a leak in the line to the oil pressure gauge. Someone had used a piece of wire covered with paper to keep the static line tidy. The sort of ties used for closing plastic bags they give away in supermarkets. The paper eroded and the iron wire electrolytically eroded the aluminum oil pressure line. It was just a pin-hole, but it near-emptied the engine of oil in 5-10 minutes. My passenger noticed hnis feet were bathed in oil. I pulled the power and landed at a nearby airport. No further damage, but a horrible mess behind the panel.
I never felt good about flying at night or over jungle again. But that applies to any single engine. The Lycoming 0360 is the closest engine to bullet-proof there is. The American Yankee Association is a great resource: join or get your daughter to do so while looking.
Ashley
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Post subject: Re: Grumman Tigers - Whats the 411? Posted: 21 Jul 2010, 04:44 |
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Joined: 11/07/09 Posts: 2889 Post Likes: +599 Location: Phoenix AZ
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Username Protected wrote: Just make sure it's not this one landing at Gaston's http://www.vimeo.com/13320705That guy came in way to hot, and forced it on the runway. It looks like the torque tube was ripped of the firewall with the nose tube and wheel!
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Post subject: Re: Grumman Tigers - Whats the 411? Posted: 21 Jul 2010, 18:13 |
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Joined: 08/11/09 Posts: 937 Post Likes: +293 Location: KAOH Lima, OH
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I have 400 hrs. In a Traveller before I bought my G33. it had a 160 Hp upgrade and a Sensenich prop w/ a Powerflow exhaust,it could keep up with any stock Tiger except it had 38 gal fuel cap instead of 54 gal. As far as being built tough compared to a Beech, a tiger went through a t-storm some time ago and landed w/ an additional 3or 5 degree bend in the dihedral. The factory examined it a said it must have well exceeded 6G's ( the spar on Tigers, Cheetahs, and Travellers are a heavy gauge 6" tube, think "big pipe"). Grumans have sports car like response and handling and if you train for instrument rating w one you will have no problems w/ approaches in a Bonanza.
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