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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 30 Jan 2026, 18:40 |
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Joined: 10/04/19 Posts: 51 Post Likes: +11
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If I take the headset off, enable the speaker and transmit through the handheld microphone, there's a feedback noise. Any way around this? I've tried turning the volume down but it didn't help much.
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 30 Jan 2026, 19:50 |
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Username Protected wrote: If I take the headset off, enable the speaker and transmit through the handheld microphone, there's a feedback noise. Any way around this? I've tried turning the volume down but it didn't help much. Sidetone level is too high
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 30 Jan 2026, 23:55 |
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Username Protected wrote: Sidetone level is too high How do achieve the right balance so you hear that with a headset, but don't feedback with a cockpit speaker? Shouldn't the cockpit speaker have zero sidetone? Sidetone is designed to replace the natural hearing of your own voice that is blocked by the headset, so you shouldn't need it with open ears. Seems like enabling cabin speaker should shut off sidetone and that is not happening in this case. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 31 Jan 2026, 07:37 |
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Joined: 08/24/13 Posts: 10552 Post Likes: +5069 Company: Aviation Tools / CCX Location: KSMQ New Jersey
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Username Protected wrote: Sidetone level is too high How do achieve the right balance so you hear that with a headset, but don't feedback with a cockpit speaker? Shouldn't the cockpit speaker have zero sidetone? Sidetone is designed to replace the natural hearing of your own voice that is blocked by the headset, so you shouldn't need it with open ears. Seems like enabling cabin speaker should shut off sidetone and that is not happening in this case. Mike C.
I believe that is correct for Garmin audio panels, but the Baker panels in the Avanti I (and almost all jets from the '60s thru the early 2000s) do have speaker sidetone. I think the newer Avanti II Evo has Becker digital panels, so it should be adjustable.
The other possibility is that the mic has a blocked noise cancelling port. That will cause it to pick up more ambient noise including speaker sidetone.
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 14 Feb 2026, 01:14 |
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Joined: 11/19/19 Posts: 237 Post Likes: +335 Company: Airline Maintenance Service In Location: KMQY
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So I have Anthony to thank for mentoring me on how to get the most out of the Avanti. I admit I was apprehensive but the FF profile was very accurate and I landed with 660 lbs remaining in good VFR conditions.
As he so correctly pointed out bucking a 100kt+ HW for hours is no fun but can you imagine how awful it would be in a KA.
I enjoyed the time I have in various 90's, A100, B200, but I can't imagine going back now.
Thank you Anthony for helping me learn to really use the airplane.
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 14 Feb 2026, 13:31 |
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These really are remarkable aircraft. Anthony, Ed, and several other P180 owners have been extremely generous with their time helping me understand how the Avanti could fit my evolving mission, especially with a young family.
I’m actively in the market for an Avanti. If any owners here are considering selling, I’d welcome the conversation. Ideally looking for a Garmin-equipped Avanti I or a well-cared-for Avanti II, but open to discussing any aircraft. PM me.
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 14 Feb 2026, 16:52 |
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Joined: 10/04/19 Posts: 51 Post Likes: +11
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A very short blink of STALL on the annunciator panel and red ATT (I think) on both PFDs would be what failure? Sensor? Wiring? Oh, and here's a video of landing and takeoff at Saanen, Switzerland. After owning the Piaggio for two years I finally had the confidence to do some hand flying. It's been IFR and AP to minimums so far. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt3pXkKlH7U
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 16 Feb 2026, 12:58 |
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Username Protected wrote: Oh, and here's a video of landing and takeoff at Saanen, Switzerland. Gorgeous landing! I think my favorite thing about the FBO listing for Gstaad Airport is that the Foreflight services listed are "GPU, Catering, Aircraft Parking, Personal Security." You don't see that often! 
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Post subject: Re: The definitive Piaggio P180 Avanti thread. Posted: 16 Feb 2026, 13:27 |
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Joined: 11/08/12 Posts: 7986 Post Likes: +5306 Location: Live in San Carlos, CA - based Hayward, CA KHWD
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Username Protected wrote: Oh, and here's a video of landing and takeoff at Saanen, Switzerland. After owning the Piaggio for two years I finally had the confidence to do some hand flying. Nice airport! Beautiful flight in. And the amazing thing about the Avanti to me is how well it hand flies. Super easy, rock solid on an approach, yet fun to hand fly. Not truck-like at all.
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