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PostPosted: 26 Aug 2024, 16:31 
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Nobody ever includes the Lake La-4-200 Buccaneer in these for some reason. Well built planes, easy to fly, certified and has lots of mods. I have a whopping 4 hours in one, but loved it. ;)


LA4-180 and Colonial Skimmers should be added if this class of aircraft is to be included in the discussion. Definitely not LSA machines but good fun nonetheless.


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 Post subject: Re: LSA Seaplane....?
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look at Vickers aircraft. https://www.vickersaircraft.com/

it should meet the new MOSAIC specs and it is what the Icon should be. two people plus plenty of stuff.


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look at Vickers aircraft. https://www.vickersaircraft.com/

it should meet the new MOSAIC specs and it is what the Icon should be. two people plus plenty of stuff.

When the Icon was at the development stage the Vickers is now, it cost $120,000 and no one had died in one. Speaking only for myself, I’m too old to be a test pilot, and it’s too new to buy into.

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As pointed out, this thread is about LSA or sLSA amphibs. Hence why the Skimmer / Lakes are not included. I have lots of time in Lakes and like them and my ramp mate in East Hampton has a Lake and bought Skimmer 1 - The original prototype from the owner at Kline Kiln a number of years ago. I brokered a Lake Renegade years ago when Lake was still in production. Had 4 seats taken out and shipped via air to Germany. Got a permit and installed an aux tank where the seats were and the son of the new owner and I flew it from Floriday to Germany. A lot different airplane than an Icon, SeaMax etc.

Great fllight except that 450 miles out of the North Atlantic every noise brought some anxiety.

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As pointed out, this thread is about LSA or sLSA amphibs. Hence why the Skimmer / Lakes are not included. I have lots of time in Lakes and like them and my ramp mate in East Hampton has a Lake and bought Skimmer 1 - The original prototype from the owner at Kline Kiln a number of years ago. I brokered a Lake Renegade years ago when Lake was still in production. Had 4 seats taken out and shipped via air to Germany. Got a permit and installed an aux tank where the seats were and the son of the new owner and I flew it from Floriday to Germany. A lot different airplane than an Icon, SeaMax etc.

Great fllight except that 450 miles out of the North Atlantic every noise brought some anxiety.

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Nobody ever includes the Lake La-4-200 Buccaneer in these for some reason. Well built planes, easy to fly, certified and has lots of mods. I have a whopping 4 hours in one, but loved it. ;)



We have thoroughly enjoyed ours---nearly 87 hours on it and just got it in February 2025--and it was in the shop getting gorilla AUX tanks and some other items done for an extended period of time. When it comes to amphibian planes, they have great UL and they are obtainable. The Renegade is even better--but infrequently for sale. Obviously not LSAs--but the LA4-200 is tremendous smiles per mile.


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SeaRey seemed lightly built but did fly - limited experience. Tailwheel is weak spot; they now have a guard in case touch tail-low, but still seems like a bad idea. Wheels fine on landing on terra firma.

Icon was well built, seemed to have adequate power for two people (more never hurts), rated for 12" waves but landed ok a couple times in 18" waves - wouldn't do it everyday. AoA flown and works well. Very pleasant to fly; water handling good for even novices and dipping a wing in the water even at moderate speed is designed and can vouch has no ill effects. Taxis miserably on land and needs some speed to turn/stay straight.

Like all low-to-the-water flying boats these are a pain to doc and really need to be beached.

Aeroprakt seems well built and on amphibs could be a very affordable solution.


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MOSAIC is here. Aircraft has to stall at 61 mph or less, 3000 pounds,
250 mph. One passenger. Sport or Recreational ( can't remember now)
You need a driver's license and 20 hours. They are saying
Half the time, Half the cost twice the fun.
I have an M22 SeaMax and an LA 4. They both can flown with the two license below Private. Just got a Cessna 337 which I hope to get to St Vincent and the Grenadines Late February or March.
Flying between Antigua and St Vincent the islands are 50 miles apart.
Contact Captain T at 4captnt@gmail.com if interested in flying the islands or talking about the LA 4 or SeaMax.


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When the Icon was at the development stage the Vickers is now, it cost $120,000 and no one had died in one.


From what I gather, it's exceptionally difficult to die in an Icon. You'd have to either fly into a blind canyon, buzz boats while on hard drugs, or something like that.

Although I have a friend who crashed Searey twice (total on the 2nd try) and got away with bruises. However... He gave me a ride once, and landed on a river. It wasn't obvious for me as a land pilot, but the river had a layer of fog on it, and we went IMC when 10 ft over the water. He took off again and as soon as we saw the horizon, we overflew a boat, heretofore hiding in the fog. I don't know if all LSA boat pilots are like this, in which case even the safety of Icon may be generally not enough.


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Aeroprakt seems well built and on amphibs could be a very affordable solution.

Where is the factory these days?

If they are still in Kharkov, they are a hair away from a visit by a flock of Gerans.


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Searay, Super Petral XP, or ICON A5.
I have zero baseline knowledge but will be retiring on a lake. This would be fun.
Any info/thoughts appreciated. My biggest concern is how to securely dock/store/hangar one of these at the lakehouse.

Your first decision is mooring/beaching/docking.

How exposed is your waterfront to wind, waves & wakes?
Rocky, beach, overhanging trees, etc...
Can you build a dock, add a lift or anchor a mooring ball?

Amphib adds versatility & complexity,
straight floats are more fun with less worry,
if you have nearby places to go.

Legend Cub on amphibs is impressive, but load limited,
and "busy" ... gear, prop, mixture, flaps, etc...
(G5s, autopilot, EDM830 ... sheesh!)

What's your goal ...
Cub/Champ on 'straights' is super simple
- one lever, no gear, fixed prop, no flaps, mixture rich .... FUN!

Fuel?

When the nasty weather comes, what's your plan?


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