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 Post subject: PS Engineering PMA450B vs Garmin GMA 345
PostPosted: 19 May 2025, 18:40 
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Hi, I own a Cherokee 6. It is time for an upgrade from a Narco CP-136 audio panel. The two audio panels on the subject are what I have found to be best in the market for the type of plane. I am happy to get suggestions for less expensive options that will allow for better integration with the;

Current:
530waas
stec-20 autopilot

Future:
Dual GI 275 or dual G5s,
gi 275 eis/jpi 830/jpi 900),
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GTX 375,
gfc 500 autopilot
Maybe a GTN 750 or an IFD 540/550 when the 530waas takes a turn.

What are your thoughts? I really appreciate any help you can provide.


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 Post subject: Re: PS Engineering PMA450B vs Garmin GMA 345
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Hi, I own a Cherokee 6. It is time for an upgrade from a Narco CP-136 audio panel. The two audio panels on the subject are what I have found to be best in the market for the type of plane. I am happy to get suggestions for less expensive options that will allow for better integration with the;

Current:
530waas
stec-20 autopilot

Future:
Dual GI 275 or dual G5s,
gi 275 eis/jpi 830/jpi 900),
gnc 215,
GTX 375,
gfc 500 autopilot
Maybe a GTN 750 or an IFD 540/550 when the 530waas takes a turn.

What are your thoughts? I really appreciate any help you can provide.


You are currently “driving” a ford pinto. You are asking the group whether a Ferrari or Lamborghini is the best choice.

Seriously though, both of the those audio panels are light years ahead of what you’re using. Each of them has some very minor pluses, that honestly aren’t even noticed by most.

I’ve owned both. This is an easy decision because you really can’t go wrong with either.


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 Post subject: Re: PS Engineering PMA450B vs Garmin GMA 345
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Both are excellent. I love the 450b. The only plus with the garmin is if you plan on potentially doing a remote panel and could control the audio panel from tbe 750. That saves you a slot of space. That is the only real plus of going garmin. Otherwise they are fairly equal.


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 Post subject: Re: PS Engineering PMA450B vs Garmin GMA 345
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Both are excellent. I love the 450b. The only plus with the garmin is if you plan on potentially doing a remote panel and could control the audio panel from tbe 750. That saves you a slot of space. That is the only real plus of going garmin. Otherwise they are fairly equal.

Thank you, I am leaning towards Garmin so far with remote mounts on radios, and so due to limited spacing.


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 Post subject: Re: PS Engineering PMA450B vs Garmin GMA 345
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Both are excellent. I love the 450b. The only plus with the garmin is if you plan on potentially doing a remote panel and could control the audio panel from tbe 750. That saves you a slot of space. That is the only real plus of going garmin. Otherwise they are fairly equal.


Hahahaha, and here I thought I had a Ford Taurus at least. ahahahhahahhahahahahahahaha! Thank you for the information!


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 Post subject: Re: PS Engineering PMA450B vs Garmin GMA 345
PostPosted: 20 May 2025, 00:27 
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While some may be evaluating features, I am in the camp that the sound quality of the PSE is noticeably better.

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 Post subject: Re: PS Engineering PMA450B vs Garmin GMA 345
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I just replaced my GMA345 with a PMA450B

My opinion -
Sound is better with the PS Engineering equipment
If you listen to XM while flying, the PMA450 is more flexible for music distribution
I prefer the user interface on the PS Engineering product. Maybe that's just because I have more experience with their product :shrug:


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 Post subject: Re: PS Engineering PMA450B vs Garmin GMA 345
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I just replaced my GMA345 with a PMA450B

My opinion -
Sound is better with the PS Engineering equipment
If you listen to XM while flying, the PMA450 is more flexible for music distribution
I prefer the user interface on the PS Engineering product. Maybe that's just because I have more experience with their product :shrug:
PS Engineering customer service blows Garmin out of the water. There is no comparison.


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I have a PMA450B. Absolutely top-notch piece of gear. Very good audio quality, flexible UI, easy to operate, lots of features, fairly priced, and superb support from PS.


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I have a -450 and a Bose QC-35 with an N-flight mic. The music quality is nearly breathtaking.

And the ability to listen to Atis and Atc at the same time and actually hear both in different ears is magic.

The -340 is a perfectly capable audio panel, but the -450 is a significant step up.

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 Post subject: Re: PS Engineering PMA450B vs Garmin GMA 345
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What do you mean by 340 is a significant step up? What product are you referring too?


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How about future proofing? Does each module work with remote mount radios and so forth?


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I've had them both, and they are both good. Both have bluetooth. The Garmin unit has easier to use audio playback and music volume adjustment, while the PSE has an extra bluetooth line, more features, and arguably better sound quality. I'm currently using the PMA 450B and plan on keeping it.


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What do you mean by 340 is a significant step up? What product are you referring too?

fixed in edit.. the -450 is a step up.

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PSE all day every day for me. If you can make it to a PSE demo at OSH or similar trade show, you can demo each unit in their booth and you'll notice the better sound quality.


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