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 Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon
PostPosted: 18 Nov 2023, 07:34 
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 Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon
PostPosted: 01 Aug 2024, 20:07 
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Hello All,

Looking for PIREPS on the Hartzell Voyager 86" for the C185. There are a few in this forum, but a few years old. Hopefully more people have switched to it or the users have more experience with the prop.

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 Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon
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A guy on my field has it on a 185 amphib io550 and he swears by it


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 Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon
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Hello All,

Looking for PIREPS on the Hartzell Voyager 86" for the C185. There are a few in this forum, but a few years old. Hopefully more people have switched to it or the users have more experience with the prop.

Rgs,

Patrick


I was one of the early adapters mentioned. I’ve now had the Voyager for 5 years, and while the price increases have changed the value proposition a bit, I’m still amazed by this prop. Zero downside so far, and I’d do it again in a heartbeat.


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 Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon
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Switched from a c-58 to voyager, still just as strong pull, less noise, much smoother, maybe faster

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 Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon
PostPosted: 14 Nov 2024, 10:48 
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I went from a C66 88” to a two blade MT to a Voyager on a high compression Pponk 180.

The two blade MT is 5-7 mph faster than the C66 and takes 18# off the nose if I’m remembering right. The plane feels great when light and takeoff and landing is really short. Throttle response is like a two stroke dirt bike. When heavy I didn’t like how the airplane felt tail heavy.

Voyager is equal speed to the MT, maybe slightly faster. It is much smoother and seems quieter in the plane in cruise. The pull out of the hole of the Voyager is unbelievable. When loaded down and coming out of strips above 9000’ in Colorado nothing compares to the Voyager.


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 Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon
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Cautionary tales:

Had two buddies tell me these stories this weekend. :dancing:

The first was back on amphibs since last summer. Checking out his island. Docks and lifts aren’t in yet. So he was looking for a safe place to tie up. He didn’t have waders so it had to allow a non water access point. It’s a 10 acre island. So it took awhile. He decided to error on the side of caution and depart rather than damage the aircraft. He was on the south side of the island and decided to depart south into a light wind. Turns out there are some rocks protruding out of the water about 100 yards off shore. it was his first time since last summer departing and he departed majestically (or so he told me). on climb out he realized he never identified or thought about the rocks. sick feeling. He said. Had he hit them the aircraft would have been destroyed and he may have been as well. He was so focused on the beaching part of it he never fully thought through the departure. There was no other traffic on the water and he felt it gave him a free pass. Hmmm. My buddy promises to be better.

My other buddy was out flying on a beautiful UP day on Cinco De Mayo. 2 hours flying 10 water landings. He returned to his home base KSAW for fuel and a hangar. It’ a 9000 foot runway with only a mid point exit. He asked to land and do a 180. That was approved. 10 knot 90 degree crosswind. He was really going to nail it. He got within 5 feet or so agl and, as he started to flare he felt something wasn’t right. The aircraft handling was slightly off. A little power to stop the decent. A quick glance at the gear lights and they were in water position. He claims to have heard the gear position voice but didn’t want to be distracted so he quickly silenced it. He executed a go around. On climb out he asked if tower knew why. They didn’t.

The subsequent landing was uneventful.

Hope you don’t have buddies like me eh?

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 Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon
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Hope you don’t have buddies like me eh?


Mark, I could always use more buddies with some good luck and maybe guardian angels looking out for them.

Thanks for sharing the cautionary tales.


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 Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon
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Here are some recent photos of my Skywagon. Got it painted in Bend, OR - Cascade Customs Design - Steven Bird. They really have an amazing paint shop and IMHO - this is the guy you want painting your airplane. He painted a friend's 185 2 years ago and I was blown away at the quality. It is not the cheapest paint shop out there but the quality of his work speaks for itself.

I also had the airplane in John Bentley's shop getting several items addressed both before and after it was painted. John is also another great resource for all things Skywagon. He really is an amazing IA/guy and can fix anything. I bought a Sellirk Composite Cowl that was a pain in the ass to fit due to my O520 engine and heavy engine mount. He rebuilt the horizontal stabilizer with the Tanalian kit which places a 4 mm skin on the leading edge of the Horizontal Stabilizer and makes the area impervious to dings. I also had the all of the control surfaces reskinned (This was actually a pretty good price) by a local sheet metal guy near KSPB. The airplane has never flown or looked as nice as it is right now. The whole project took 9 months with the airplane being down for just about 6 months total of that time. I went with the classic 1955 Scheme - despite it being a 58 C180A. Anyway - super expensive doing all this work and I regret zero of it. Love throwing money on my airplane. I am super happy with results. The airplane is nicer than I ever imagined.


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