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 Post subject: Re: Thinking about a new plane (again)
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What cruise speeds are you seeing for that 70-80gph? How does the cabin size compare to the Meridian?


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Hello,

I have been flying a 1985 Cessna P210R for the last 5 years. It is dialed in about exactly where I want it - new panel, new interior, etc.



Hi Cooper,

Glad to hear things are working out for you with your Cheyenne! Curious - did you keep your P210R or??

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Cruise speed for this 1981 Cheyenne I with AA cowlings and speed stacks is 240 Knots. I agree with Charles, sometimes I like slogging along at 212 Knots just sipping fuel (not really).

I sold the 1985 P210R. This was necessary to buy this one.

I have a couple squawks. Taking it to the mechanic who has been working on it for the past 6 years. It is in really good shape for a 44 year old plane. Of course I have been flying a 40 year old plane for a while. Some things are worth trying to adjust/fix, and some things are not. Determining what those are can save or add to frustration and expense.


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Cruise speed for this 1981 Cheyenne I with AA cowlings and speed stacks is 240 Knots. I agree with Charles, sometimes I like slogging along at 212 Knots just sipping fuel (not really).

I sold the 1985 P210R. This was necessary to buy this one.

I have a couple squawks. Taking it to the mechanic who has been working on it for the past 6 years. It is in really good shape for a 44 year old plane. Of course I have been flying a 40 year old plane for a while. Some things are worth trying to adjust/fix, and some things are not. Determining what those are can save or add to frustration and expense.

Guessing that left torque gage is one of the squawks? Get her up above FL200 and that fuel flow will start to drop off quickly - As long as the temps up there are < ISA+10 you’ll still see that 240kts. Glad to hear you’re enjoying the Cheyenne!


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Congrats on acquiring the Cheyenne! They are great airplanes with good utility. It is an older airframe, but you’re already used to dealing with that. I have around 1,500 hours operating mine, so please feel free to reach out if you have other questions.

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OK, wow. 2 full days of training so far. Flew about 2300 miles yesterday. Several "missions" taking people places.

This is my first twin turboprop experience. I have flown (with the owner) a Piper Meridian which is a great aircraft. I am also a newly minted multi engine private pilot. The first thing I realize about this aircraft (Piper Cheyenne I - N39TL) is that it needs a job. We flew 2300 miles, 6 stops, and the plane would have been very happy to fly more. I did a few 5 stop long days in the P210R, which were great, but that aircraft was happy to rest when we got done.

I will also say, that this plane is thirsty. Being my first twin (and METP), I was expecting a higher fuel burn 70-80 gph, and it came in right about there. I think I paid between $3.54 and $7.66. Big difference in fuel bill between the two extremes.

3 more days with my current instructor and then 3 days next weekend with a different instructor. We will see how confident I feel at that point.

I just wanted to follow up on this thread. I certainly appreciate the wealth of knowledge on beech talk.

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Heeeeeeyyyyy, I know that airplane! Or I did, back when Panhandle Telephone owned it our of Guymon, OK! I put many a gallon of Jet A in it during my stint at Millionaire, OKC(PWA). Glad to see it's still rocking the TL tail number, too.

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Todd,

Always enjoy hearing about the history of these birds!

Been fun so far. I really like many things about this aircraft. It has a lot more power than I am used to. I start my takeoff roll and then push the torque up once I get rolling. Climbs well and has good handling aspects. She is a little thirsty, especially when flying low.

Hope to go out west this summer with the family.

Getting the hangar stripped up. I've got about 1' clearance in several areas. A little tight, but not too bad. I just have to pay attention.


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Todd,

Always enjoy hearing about the history of these birds!

Been fun so far. I really like many things about this aircraft. It has a lot more power than I am used to. I start my takeoff roll and then push the torque up once I get rolling. Climbs well and has good handling aspects. She is a little thirsty, especially when flying low.

Hope to go out west this summer with the family.

Getting the hangar stripped up. I've got about 1' clearance in several areas. A little tight, but not too bad. I just have to pay attention.


Never flown the Cheyenne, but, have time in the KA's, 90 and 200. I always prefer that method, as well. Bring the power up slowly to make sure I keep it square, get rolling, then advance from there.

Good luck with your new whip!!!!

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Maybe tell your complaining buddies to buy their own plane and meet them there?



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